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From Nicolas Lalevée <nicolas.lale...@hibnet.org>
Subject Re: Ivy - Goals for the upcoming release?
Date Sun, 21 May 2017 17:00:19 GMT

> Le 21 mai 2017 à 18:34, Gintautas Grigelionis <g.grigelionis@gmail.com> a écrit
:
> 
> Now that Ant is upgraded, I suggest converting tests to JUnit 4 (which
> requires at least Ant 1.9.5, if I'm not mistaken). I can submit a patch
> pretty soon.
> 
> Introducing generics throughout (hey, that's a Java 5 feature!) would make
> the code easier to read (I've seen incorrect comments of what goes into a
> Map somewhere in the code). Unfortunately, in Ivy's case that requires even
> some changes in the API (can't have arrays of generics) and a few other
> design problems.

I don’t want to break your enthusiasm, but we should try to keep the API as stable as possible.
I know the API is very wide, a lot is exposed, but we should be really careful at not breaking
downside projects.

Also, PR are starting to pill up thanks to the good work of Jaikiran, so if there is big code
change like adding a lot of generic in the code, it would be nice to wait a little bit so
that merges will be easier.

> As for IvyDE, I was looking into getting rid of any deprecations and fixing
> the build.xml so that the dependencies can be retrieved by Ivy from Eclipse
> update sites. However, the honour of getting the current builds to work
> goes to Nicolas.

Any contribution to upgrade the dependencies of IvyDE is welcomed. For instance, I don’t
even know if a PDE build can still be done with Eclipse 4.

Also, if some dependencies are too hard to get, like the GEF and Zest, we could get rid of
them by stopping to support the « resolve visualizer ». And it could be decided that it
is not abandoned but just temporarily disabled until someone find a way to correctly build
it.

Nicolas

> 
> Gintas
> 
> 2017-05-21 16:41 GMT+02:00 J Pai <jai.forums2013@gmail.com>:
> 
>> One thing I forgot to note is that we need to do a similar thing for
>> IvyDE. I haven’t looked at the JIRA issues for that project [1] and am not
>> familiar with Eclipse in general. So someone more familiar with it would
>> have to look into those. Having said that, Gintas has helped with getting
>> the IvyDE project itself come to life recently, so I guess we can target to
>> do something similar in terms of release goals, for that project too.
>> 
>> -Jaikiran
>> 
>> 
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IVYDE
>> On 21-May-2017, at 7:58 PM, J Pai <jai.forums2013@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The past few days I’ve sent some PRs for bug fixes and some enhancements
>> in preparation for the proposed release of Ivy. Thanks Nicolas for
>> reviewing them and merging those that were good enough.
>> 
>> I’ve been using this JIRA filter [1] to narrow down on the issues to look
>> into. That filter essentially is of “open issues that affect 2.1.0, 2.2.0,
>> 2.3.0 or 2.4.0 and have been updated/created since Jan 1st 2014”. So it
>> should cover most of the issues that we probably should look into (doesn’t
>> necessarily mean fix all of them, but just to check if any of them are big
>> enough to focus on).
>> 
>> I’ve also sent one PR for upgrading our internal library dependencies and
>> plan to send a couple more for similar upgrades. My intention is to use the
>> latest released versions of these dependencies instead of sticking with
>> dependencies that are years old. My intention _isn’t_ to upgrade to a
>> version that isn’t API backward compatible, so these upgrades are mostly
>> bug fixes and should be “drop-in upgrades”.
>> 
>> I would be really glad to hear any thoughts about these changes or any
>> other/different plans, that can get us to a releasable state in the near
>> future, especially from members/users who have been involved with Ant/Ivy
>> project in the past or present. Ultimately, I think if we can agree on a
>> goal for the upcoming release, it will help release something that will set
>> the right expectation with the end users when it comes to using it. My
>> opinion is that we consider this release to push out some bug fixes and
>> internal upgrades and _not_ introduce any major features unless those are
>> reasonably quick to implement. Once this release is done and (hopefully
>> some of the) community gets back behind the Ivy project, we can always
>> introduce major features in subsequent releases.
>> 
>> 
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%
>> 20IVY%20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20%22In%20Progress%22%
>> 2C%20Reopened)%20AND%20affectedVersion%20in%20(2.1.0%2C%202.
>> 2.0%2C%202.3.0%2C%202.4.0%2C%202.4.0-RC1)%20AND%20updated%
>> 20%3E%3D%202014-01-01%20ORDER%20BY%20updated%20DESC
>> 
>> -Jaikiran
>> 
>> 
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