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From David Kavanagh <>
Subject Re: hotswap
Date Wed, 13 Oct 2004 02:11:57 GMT
Just wondering if anyone else has any thoughts on the <hotswap> target, 
feel free to look at the web page ( and 
read Steve's comments below.

Thus Spoke Steve Loughran:

> On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 19:02:39 -0400, David Kavanagh <> 
> wrote:
> > I just noticed a 1.5+ feature that is going into Ant 1.7. Many months
> > ago, I had a 1.4+ feature that I wanted to get put into Ant, but it was
> > rejected because it wouldn't be backward compatible to version 1.2.2.
> > Has something changed? If so, I'd like to offer the <hotswap> 
> target. It
> > has a home at and I'd be happy to
> > contribute that to the main ant project. I've been using it at work in
> > our builds for all that time and it is robust and ready to be used.
> Assuming the code is self contained and isolated from 
> bootstrap.bat/sh, we can have optional version code in the system, 
> sorry if that was an issue before.
> Having had a look at hotswap, I dont know whether to be impressed or 
> scared. Are you using this for hot deployment to a live system, wow. 
> Not in production, one would hope.
> At the very least we can link to it on the web site, it is a very wild 
> idea. As to whether we'd want it in the core (putting aside the fact 
> that you'd need to add an apache-compatible license ), I am scared of 
> its powers. Only to be used in the hands of the competent, i think. 
> But its potentially no worse than any normal debugger. And it is 
> certainly a task closely related to the build/deploy process.
> So I will ask other people to give their opinion.
> -steve
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