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From Stefan Bodewig <>
Subject Re: cvs commit: ant welcome.html
Date Wed, 01 Oct 2003 09:22:30 GMT
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Steve Loughran <> wrote:
> Stefan Bodewig wrote:

>> I'm not too happy with the call to action part,
> Change it as you see fit.

This is going to be hard without breaking the tone and style.  I think
collective authoring of texts is a lot harder than authoring of
program code.

> I just felt like encouraging more audience participation

I agree with that, completely.

Went on and re-read the document to see what exactly made me say that
I didn't like it.  I'd probably simply remove the text starting with
"Microsoft are fully" up until "IBM do contribute a lot." completely.

The paragraph then would read

It is an interesting time for Java. .NET is a serious challenger, and
will get better. But the core strength of Java over .NET is its
community. It is the community that gave the world leading edge
development tools and other core components: Ant, JUnit, XDoclet,
hsqldb, Hibernate, Struts, etc.  These things weren't created by JCP
committees, or built according to the strategic vision of a Fortune
100 company. They were written by Java developers, for Java
developers, usually to meet their own tactical goals.

I don't want to go ahead and make that change without hearing more
opinions, though.  Maybe I'm a little too sensitive. 8-)


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