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From Dominique Devienne <>
Subject RE: antlib
Date Wed, 23 Apr 2003 15:27:46 GMT
One comment about roles: Roles are fine, but roles are just strings... If
everything is defined as a component at a low level, then they can be easily
introspected to find out what interfaces components implement. For example,
why would I have to say:

<define classname="a.b.C" name="..." role="selector"/>

when class a.b.C does implement FileSelector! The role is implicit thanks to
the type of the class itself. I suspect there will be more cases where a
role maps directly to a single given interface than to an arbitrary bean,
which is the only case where a role string needs to be specified!?!?

So an AntLib system that forces to spell out (string) roles in an XML
descriptor (which I also prefer over the Manifest) when the defined class
itself already embeds this info in it own type will be cumbersome at best.


-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Bodewig [] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: antlib

>> With that, do we really need separate <task> and <data-type> in
>> <antlib> or are they just special cases of roles?
> They should be.

So if they are just roles, why treat them in a different way than
other roles?  Why a <task> element?

<define classname="..." name="..." role="task"/>

could do the same and be more consistent.  I don't have a strong
feeling here, just trying to find my way through the ideas without
having to read the code ;-)

Maybe something could even be in different roles at the same time?
See available, checksum or uptodate for things that are tasks and
conditions in one.

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