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From Stephane Bailliez <>
Subject RE: removing deprecated stuff
Date Mon, 26 Nov 2001 09:50:30 GMT
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Donald []

> > The file is committed as ant-update.xsl, so you can remove 
> your -1 :-)
> I hope your not claiming thats safe or even vaguely close to 
> complete ?

If you mean by safe that I can screw up an XML that has nothing to do with
an Ant file.
The answer is simple, of course 'yes' applies.

If you are asking me if I can screw up some Ant build file, I answer "yes,

If however I had 50 files to update, I would not hesitate a second to use
such a XSL.
Files are under source control it's not like doing a change will break
things forever.

And about completion, well, as I said in the comments, I probably missed
some. I just took the manual and look at all tasks in italic. Feel free to
share your thoughts.

> thats nice - I definetly disagree. I think maintaining backwards 
> compatability in same major version is a good thing. We have 
> fixed points 
> where we break backwards compatability. ie
> Ant1.x -> Ant2.x -> Ant3.x

Ok, this is fine for me, though a little bit cleaning from time to time does
not kill. :-)

> exolab is just an example - I suspect you could ask Sam/gump 
> peeps to see the 
> full range of ant versions used in the projects it manages. 
> And remember that 
> these projects represent a best case example (ie Sam 
> regularly submits 
> patches to the projects to get them building in line and the 
> projects tend to 
> be more uptodate "open" projects). are fast in conclusion.
These projects do not represent at all a best case example.
They just represent a sample of entropy since they are absolutely not
They have nothing in commons...It's not like all these modules were made
from the ground up to work together and therefore use a common set of third
party and all synchronized together with defined milestone.

> The problem is that is no small amount of work ... in fact it 
> is a MASSIVE 
> undertaking. If you really want to do it then no one will 
> stop you - but 
> don't underestimate the amount of effort required to get it 
> done right and 
> tested. And it is also relatively boring work ;)

Obviouslly I have better things to do than wasting my time in something that
no one really cares about.
Especially since I think there is absolutely no big deal with migrating from
deprecated tasks to non-deprecated tasks. :-)


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