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From Ken Wood <>
Subject Re: cvs commit: jakarta-ant/src/main/org/apache/tools/ant
Date Tue, 19 Sep 2000 21:43:30 GMT
On a related note, while I'm thrilled to see more and
more people using Ant, I'm worried that we keep
adding subtle variations of the same thing just
to meet a specific need. Look at the number
of variations of "available" that have been proposed
in recent weeks, or the variety of logger issues, as
just two examples.

Or, someone submits a patch to add functionality that
is already there, they just didn't know it.

I believe the committers are doing a good job of
screening out duplicate work, but I still fear that
if we, as a group, aren't careful, we'll end up
with a 10,000 lb gorilla that can do the same thing
30 different ways, but can do anything well or
efficiently. Ant started out as a lean, mean, building
machine, and I hope we keep it that way rather than
burdening it with every subtle variation under the
sun. Some things belong IN ant, and some things belong
in the surrounding infrastructure in which ant is used.
We have to be careful to keep the line between the two

Well, enough soap box....

Diane Holt wrote:
> --- Conor MacNeill <> wrote:
> > I'm not that keen on this change. I prefer things to be explicit and not
> > to go implicitly wandering up the filesystem trying to find a build
> > file.
> I agree. (I'm not a voter, tho, just a user.) I can already run 'ant' from
> anywhere in my source-tree and have it do the right thing -- my
> wrapper-script just 'cd's to the root of the current workspace (as defined
> in the user environment) before the java call to ant.
> Diane
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