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From Raymond Camden <raymondcam...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Ripple retirement? (Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2014 ([ppmc]))
Date Wed, 15 Oct 2014 23:59:59 GMT
Actually, the Browser platform can be tested now and will be released very
soon. If I had to guess, at PhoneGap Day in a week. It is definitely *not*
6 months out.

On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Parashuram Narasimhan (MS OPEN TECH) <
panarasi@microsoft.com> wrote:

> Microsoft also has an interest in Ripple given that our Multi-Device
> Development offering leverages Ripple in the development workflow. We use
> Ripple only for Cordova-related workflows. However, we plan to start using
> cordova-browser when it is finalized and replace Ripple with that. However,
> cordova-browser is at least 6 months away.
>
> Can this project continue in its current state for the next 6 months ? I
> can volunteer to help with releases, reports and bug fixes if that is a
> concern. Can we revisit this decision after 6 months?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Speed, Derek [mailto:derek.speed@intel.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 12:02 PM
> To: dev@ripple.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Ripple retirement? (Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct
> 2014 ([ppmc]))
>
> As many of you on this list know, the device emulator in the Intel XDK is
> based on Ripple so we have a strong interest in the future direction of
> Ripple. However, most of our focus within the Intel XDK team on Ripple
> development has been on adapting it to meet our specific needs in the Intel
> XDK and we have, regrettably, not spent much effort on contributing to the
> upstream project.
>
> Recently, we have been discussing some collaboration opportunities between
> Cordova and Ripple that Brent mentioned below. We're very close to having
> something worth sharing with the community for feedback. So, stay tuned for
> an e-mail on the early results of the technical work we have been doing
> together.
>
> Thanks,
> Derek
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brent Lintner [mailto:brent.lintner@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:35 AM
> To: dev@ripple.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Ripple retirement? (Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct
> 2014 ([ppmc]))
>
> Pending the voice call that went on yesterday about Ripple/Cordova
> collaboration (of which I did not make):
>
> IMO: I find GitHub projects (even from my direct experience) develop and
> sustain active communities without well defined governance (that develops
> on demand), and (ideally) provides a truly central (and familiar) channel
> of communication, contribution, and community. I.e Issues, PRs, Wikis, etc-
> all the tools you need in one place.
>
> FWIW, we were on GitHub when open sourced by Blackberry in the first
> place, and I felt it was sufficient, and easier to coordinate.
>
> Given that, I feel the project has the best chance of continuing on
> outside of the ASF, because freeing up the process of development and
> releasing versions might very well reignite contribution, community, and
> admin management. Things like Cordova adoption or trademark issues can
> still be worked out there.
>
> +1 to Github.
>
> PS: If a specific user account is needed to host the fork, I can volunteer.
> While I am less in the space than others, I can benevolently manage the
> project by giving read/write access and name maintainers to any who are
> willing or currently committers, and we could go from there (as a thought).
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Christian Grobmeier <cg@grobmeier.de>
> wrote:
>
> > The project is AL 2.0 licensed so to my understanding the Github
> > project would be a "fork" of the original Ripple.
> > The owners of the fork would "own" it then.
> >
> > Please note that to my knowledge a few things are not sorted out
> > license wise, in example some images. Like we would have needed to
> > sort this out here, it would be wise to sort it out on GitHub as well.
> >
> > There are some cases when the name could be taken to GitHub. Please
> > note this requires discussion with the trademark folks.
> > As there is almost no community so far, it might be difficult to argue
> > if a single person would be able to get the name.
> > However, I defer you to the trademarks@apache list if any questions in
> > that direction.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 8, 2014, at 16:51, Raymond Camden wrote:
> > > Would would "own" the project?
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Christian Grobmeier
> > > <grobmeier@gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > It's not necessary to move to GitHub if nobody wants.
> > > > My main point is that there is almost zero community here and it's
> > > > unlikely to change. If Brent or Raymond want to apply a fix or so
> > > > in the future, they could go to GitHub.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >   Christian Grobmeier
> > > >   grobmeier@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 8, 2014, at 16:39, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
> > > > > How does it going to GitHub help?
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent from my Windows Phone
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: Raymond Camden<mailto:raymondcamden@gmail.com>
> > > > > Sent: ‎10/‎8/‎2014 7:26 AM
> > > > > To:
> > > > > dev@ripple.incubator.apache.org<mailto:
> > dev@ripple.incubator.apache.org>
> > > > > Subject: Re: Ripple retirement? (Re: Incubator PMC/Board report
> > > > > for
> > Oct
> > > > > 2014 ([ppmc]))
> > > > >
> > > > > As much as I like Ripple, I know I don't have a lot of time to
> > devote to
> > > > > it. I'd be fine with it going to GitHub.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 3:46 AM, Christian Grobmeier <
> > grobmeier@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > we need to report soon, and I have made a few observations.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are actually not active in any kind. This is very sad,
> > > > > > because
> > most
> > > > > > of us here
> > > > > > want Ripple to survive, but it's the truth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We don't have commit activity. Only two of us where discussing
> > > > > > a
> > new
> > > > > > committer
> > > > > > to join, without managing to finally start the vote (reminder:
> > this is
> > > > a
> > > > > > dev list, new
> > > > > > committers are discussed on the private list).
> > > > > > Usually I have to push the report further to the Ripple lists
> > > > > > and
> > its
> > > > > > hard to get a report
> > > > > > done any time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was wondering if we have a serious chance to change this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, we discussed to join Cordova as subproject. But it won't
> > > > > > help
> > if
> > > > > > there are no
> > > > > > volunteers from that place taking over.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > >
> > ======================================================================
> > =====
> > > > > Raymond Camden, Web Developer for Adobe
> > > > >
> > > > > Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
> > > > > Blog : www.raymondcamden.com<http://www.raymondcamden.com>
> > > > > Twitter: raymondcamden
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > ======================================================================
> > =====
> > > Raymond Camden, Web Developer for Adobe
> > >
> > > Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
> > > Blog : www.raymondcamden.com
> > > Twitter: raymondcamden
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Brent Lintner
>



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