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From Christian Grobmeier <>
Subject Ripple retirement? (Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2014 ([ppmc]))
Date Wed, 08 Oct 2014 08:46:05 GMT
Hello all,

we need to report soon, and I have made a few observations.

We are actually not active in any kind. This is very sad, because most
of us here
want Ripple to survive, but it's the truth.

We don't have commit activity. Only two of us where discussing a new
to join, without managing to finally start the vote (reminder: this is a
dev list, new
committers are discussed on the private list).
Usually I have to push the report further to the Ripple lists and its
hard to get a report
done any time.

I was wondering if we have a serious chance to change this. 

Yes, we discussed to join Cordova as subproject. But it won't help if
there are no
volunteers from that place taking over.

The question is, should we cancel our incubation here. What would it

 - Ripples trademark would remain at the ASF (there were excpetions)
 - The source code is read only
 - Mailinglists etc are closed

However it would also mean we make an update to our webpage and tell
that this project has moved to GitHub. I am not sure if it would survive
there as well,
but today people love to work with GitHub and that means there are

Personally I think if nobody of you comes up with either a great idea to
attract new people
or says he can dedicate a certain amount of time, this project is better
being moved to 
GitHub. We are not speaking about to "kill" a running project, because I
don't see any
sign of life so far. And this is what I consider "dead" already.

What are your thoughts? 

Kind regards,


  Christian Grobmeier

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014, at 16:15, Marvin wrote:
> Dear podling,
> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
> Incubator PMC.
> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your
> quarterly
> board report.
> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:30 am PST.
> The report 
> for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The
> Incubator PMC 
> requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks before the board meeting, to
> allow 
> sufficient time for review and submission (Wed, Oct 1st).
> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator
> PMC, and 
> subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest
> you 
> should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board meeting.
> Thanks,
> The Apache Incubator PMC
> Submitting your Report
> ----------------------
> Your report should contain the following:
>  * Your project name
>  * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the
>  project
>    or necessarily of its field
>  * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
>  towards 
>    graduation.
>  * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
>  aware of
>  * How has the community developed since the last report
>  * How has the project developed since the last report.
> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
> Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little before
> this page
>       is created from a template.
> Mentors
> -------
> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on
> the 
> Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following the 
> project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the Incubator
> PMC.
> Incubator PMC

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