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From d...@multitask.com.au
Subject RE: Service and Component Frameworks (why cornerstone is currentl y in J2)
Date Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:25:41 GMT
"Weaver, Scott" <Sweaver@rippe.com> wrote on 02/12/2003 06:51:16 AM:

> Hi Martin,
> > I don't mean to be provocative here, but if Cornerstone is 
> > general to warrant comparison with such frameworks as HiveMind, Spring 
> > PicoContainer (which does appear to be the case, from the concepts 
> > and
> > presentation), then why would you want to bury / hide it inside of
> > Jetspeed?
> It can indeed stand alone.  It is, Jun correct me if I'm wrong, becoming 
> development standard at Cisco.  Personally, I would love to see 
> become a Jakarta project or even a top level ASF project.  In fact I 
> suggested this in the conference call David and I had with the Cisco 
> Cornerstone, "A History":
> Cisco donated 100% of the Cornerstone code base in working condition 
> with a slew of J1 enhancements, a very kewl gesture on their part. David 

> (Sean Taylor) and I were given a great presentation by the Cisco 
> they really had done their due diligence; on Cornerstone in particular. 
> for legal issues, this was taken care of, at Cisco, through all the 
> legal channels as to avoid any IP issues. 
> > then why would you want to bury / hide it inside of
> > Jetspeed?
> We aren't "hiding" Cornerstone from anyone, more like shielding it, at 
> temporarily, from the same ungodly bullsh*t that plagued Pluto.  There 
> certain elements in Jakarta that see every move by large companies (IBM, 

> Sun, etc.) to donate code/participate in open source as an attempt to 
> control of open source projects or as a way to get a "free ride" from 
> open source developers.  I know this is certainly not the case with 
> Cornerstone nor was it the case with Pluto.  Jetspeed 2's development 
> severely stalled by these elements due to the fact that it is heavily 
> dependent on Pluto. I do not want to see the same thing happen again if 
> those "certain elements" in Jakarta get their panties in a twist over 
> Cornerstone framework.

I'm assuming there's nothing for them to get their panties in a twist 
about, unlike the HiveMind issues, right?
dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting
Blog:      http://blogs.codehaus.org/people/dion/

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