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From Flavio Pompermaier <pomperma...@okkam.it>
Subject Re: Cloudera parcel update
Date Fri, 27 Oct 2017 08:22:16 GMT
I totally agree wrt some compatibility matrix. I think that CDH
compatibility and parcels release should be something that people of Apache
Phoenix could support somehow..am I wrong?

On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Pedro Boado <pedro.boado@gmail.com> wrote:

> There are problems regarding version support and bugfixes. As HBase in CDH
> has been "enhaced" by Cloudera we'd need to mark certain specific cdh
> versions as supported (up to major.minor.fix version) . For instance CDH
> 5.11.1 doesn't pass tests because of an unsolved issue in Cloudera's HBase.
>
> I think this is not about sharing a parcel now and stop doing it, right?
> Also there are "financial" issues in terms of servers that I'd probably
> need help with.
>
> On 27 Oct 2017 08:49, "Flavio Pompermaier" <pompermaier@okkam.it> wrote:
>
>> If you need a hand I can help because we also need Phoenix on CDH. Maybe
>> I could writie some documentation about it's installation and usage, on the
>> README or on the official Phoenix site. Let's set up a an unofficial (but
>> working) repo of Phoenix Parcels!
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Pedro Boado <pedro.boado@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well I'd say it's the only option left to some of us to use Phoenix in
>>> our clients/companies. Most of them only go for commercial distributions of
>>> Hadoop for obvious reasons and cannot afford keeping up with frequent
>>> platform update. In our case each platform migration is bigger (in terms of
>>> effort etc) than some projects.
>>>
>>> Cloudera stopped porting it to CDH because of strategic reasons.
>>> Basically they say that Kudu does everything that Phoenix do... . Marketing
>>> strategy I guess. And we cannot stay with Phoenix 4.5 and CDH 5.5 (and no
>>> bugfixes) forever.
>>>
>>> In the other hand Hortonworks already keeps Phoenix within their own
>>> distribution so in this case the vendor itself sees strategic advantage on
>>> this.
>>>
>>> As long as I work for the same company I'll have to port Phoenix to CDH.
>>> So I could help with it guys.
>>>
>>> Maybe my only issue to publish the parcels is getting web hosting for
>>> them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 27 Oct 2017 06:35, "James Taylor" <jamestaylor@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is great, Pedro. Thanks so much for porting everything over. Would
>>>> it make sense to try to have a CDH compatible release with each Phoenix
>>>> release? Who would sign up to do this? Same question for HDP releases.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Pedro Boado <pedro.boado@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, it s provided "as is" . Try a "mvn clean package -D
>>>>> skipTests=true" .
>>>>>
>>>>> And grab the parcel from phoenix-parcel/target
>>>>>
>>>>> On 26 Oct 2017 22:21, "Flavio Pompermaier" <pompermaier@okkam.it>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> And how do you use the parcel? Where it is generated?any
>>>>>> documentation about this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 26 Oct 2017 20:37, "Pedro Boado" <pedro.boado@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've done it for Phoenix 4.11 and CDH 5.11.2 based on previous
work
>>>>>>> from chiastic-security.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://github.com/pboado/phoenix-for-cloudera/tree/4.11-cdh5.11.2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All integrations tests running, and I've added a parcel module
for
>>>>>>> parcel-generation in rhel6.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Contributions are welcome for supporting other parcel formats.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've also tried to compile Phoenix 4.12 but some IT are failing
and
>>>>>>> I haven't looked further into them yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 26 Oct 2017 18:42, "Flavio Pompermaier" <pompermaier@okkam.it>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I could give it a try...any reference about it?where can I find
this
>>>>>>> latest parcel you produced? Any feedback from Cloudera?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 26 Oct 2017 18:38, "Jean-Marc Spaggiari" <jean-marc@spaggiari.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is. The parcel is not just a packaging of the Phoenix code
into a
>>>>>>> different format. It requires some modifications. However, it's
doable...
>>>>>>> Andrew applied those modifications on a later version and we
packaged it
>>>>>>> into a Parcel. So it's definitely doable. Might be interesting
to do that
>>>>>>> for the last version, but will require some efforts...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2017-10-26 12:07 GMT-04:00 Flavio Pompermaier <pompermaier@okkam.it>
>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looking at [1] they say that "Attempt to run the official
>>>>>>>> apache-phoenix-4.10.0-HBase-1.2 on CDH 5.12 failed due to
tight
>>>>>>>> coupling of CLAB_PHOENIX with HBase, and what looks like
subtle API
>>>>>>>> incompatibilities between Phoenix-embedded and CDH HBase
classes.
>>>>>>>> Namespace mapping partially worked, however". Is that true?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1] https://community.cloudera.com/t5/Cloudera-Labs/Apache-P
>>>>>>>> hoenix-Support-for-CDH-5-8-x-5-9x-5-10-x-5-11-x/m-p/58729/hi
>>>>>>>> ghlight/true#M378
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:13 AM, Flavio Pompermaier <
>>>>>>>> pompermaier@okkam.it> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll take care of it ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 25 Oct 2017 23:45, "Sergey Soldatov" <sergeysoldatov@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Flavio,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It looks like you need to ask the vendor, not the
community about
>>>>>>>>>> their plan for further releases.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Sergey
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Flavio Pompermaier
<
>>>>>>>>>> pompermaier@okkam.it> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi to all,
>>>>>>>>>>> the latest Phoenix Cloudera parcel I can see
is 4.7...any plan
>>>>>>>>>>> to release a newer version?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'd need at least Phoenix 4.9..anyone using it?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>> Flavio
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>

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