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From James Taylor <jamestay...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Cloudera parcel update
Date Fri, 27 Oct 2017 08:49:39 GMT
Yes, that's the idea I was floating - if you and Pedro (and others) are
interested, you could contribute the CDH compatible versions and these
could be bundled in our source and binary releases. The community,
including yourselves, would support it (in the same way we support Phoenix
today). Not sure what's involved in setting up a repo of Phoenix parcels,
but perhaps that can be done on Apache infrastructure too.


On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 1:22 AM, Flavio Pompermaier <pompermaier@okkam.it>
wrote:

> I totally agree wrt some compatibility matrix. I think that CDH
> compatibility and parcels release should be something that people of Apache
> Phoenix could support somehow..am I wrong?
>
> On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Pedro Boado <pedro.boado@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> There are problems regarding version support and bugfixes. As HBase in
>> CDH has been "enhaced" by Cloudera we'd need to mark certain specific cdh
>> versions as supported (up to major.minor.fix version) . For instance CDH
>> 5.11.1 doesn't pass tests because of an unsolved issue in Cloudera's HBase.
>>
>> I think this is not about sharing a parcel now and stop doing it, right?
>> Also there are "financial" issues in terms of servers that I'd probably
>> need help with.
>>
>> On 27 Oct 2017 08:49, "Flavio Pompermaier" <pompermaier@okkam.it> wrote:
>>
>>> If you need a hand I can help because we also need Phoenix on CDH. Maybe
>>> I could writie some documentation about it's installation and usage, on the
>>> README or on the official Phoenix site. Let's set up a an unofficial (but
>>> working) repo of Phoenix Parcels!
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Pedro Boado <pedro.boado@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well I'd say it's the only option left to some of us to use Phoenix in
>>>> our clients/companies. Most of them only go for commercial distributions
of
>>>> Hadoop for obvious reasons and cannot afford keeping up with frequent
>>>> platform update. In our case each platform migration is bigger (in terms
of
>>>> effort etc) than some projects.
>>>>
>>>> Cloudera stopped porting it to CDH because of strategic reasons.
>>>> Basically they say that Kudu does everything that Phoenix do... . Marketing
>>>> strategy I guess. And we cannot stay with Phoenix 4.5 and CDH 5.5 (and no
>>>> bugfixes) forever.
>>>>
>>>> In the other hand Hortonworks already keeps Phoenix within their own
>>>> distribution so in this case the vendor itself sees strategic advantage on
>>>> this.
>>>>
>>>> As long as I work for the same company I'll have to port Phoenix to
>>>> CDH. So I could help with it guys.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe my only issue to publish the parcels is getting web hosting for
>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 27 Oct 2017 06:35, "James Taylor" <jamestaylor@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is great, Pedro. Thanks so much for porting everything over.
>>>>> Would it make sense to try to have a CDH compatible release with each
>>>>> Phoenix release? Who would sign up to do this? Same question for HDP
>>>>> releases.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> James
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Pedro Boado <pedro.boado@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, it s provided "as is" . Try a "mvn clean package -D
>>>>>> skipTests=true" .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And grab the parcel from phoenix-parcel/target
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 26 Oct 2017 22:21, "Flavio Pompermaier" <pompermaier@okkam.it>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And how do you use the parcel? Where it is generated?any
>>>>>>> documentation about this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 26 Oct 2017 20:37, "Pedro Boado" <pedro.boado@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've done it for Phoenix 4.11 and CDH 5.11.2 based on previous
work
>>>>>>>> from chiastic-security.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/pboado/phoenix-for-cloudera/tree/4.11-cdh5.11.2
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All integrations tests running, and I've added a parcel module
for
>>>>>>>> parcel-generation in rhel6.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Contributions are welcome for supporting other parcel formats.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've also tried to compile Phoenix 4.12 but some IT are failing
and
>>>>>>>> I haven't looked further into them yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 26 Oct 2017 18:42, "Flavio Pompermaier" <pompermaier@okkam.it>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I could give it a try...any reference about it?where can
I find
>>>>>>>> this latest parcel you produced? Any feedback from Cloudera?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 26 Oct 2017 18:38, "Jean-Marc Spaggiari" <
>>>>>>>> jean-marc@spaggiari.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is. The parcel is not just a packaging of the Phoenix
code into
>>>>>>>> a different format. It requires some modifications. However,
it's doable...
>>>>>>>> Andrew applied those modifications on a later version and
we packaged it
>>>>>>>> into a Parcel. So it's definitely doable. Might be interesting
to do that
>>>>>>>> for the last version, but will require some efforts...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2017-10-26 12:07 GMT-04:00 Flavio Pompermaier <pompermaier@okkam.it
>>>>>>>> >:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Looking at [1] they say that "Attempt to run the official
>>>>>>>>> apache-phoenix-4.10.0-HBase-1.2 on CDH 5.12 failed due
to tight
>>>>>>>>> coupling of CLAB_PHOENIX with HBase, and what looks like
subtle API
>>>>>>>>> incompatibilities between Phoenix-embedded and CDH HBase
classes.
>>>>>>>>> Namespace mapping partially worked, however". Is that
true?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [1] https://community.cloudera.com/t5/Cloudera-Labs/Apache-P
>>>>>>>>> hoenix-Support-for-CDH-5-8-x-5-9x-5-10-x-5-11-x/m-p/58729/hi
>>>>>>>>> ghlight/true#M378
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:13 AM, Flavio Pompermaier
<
>>>>>>>>> pompermaier@okkam.it> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll take care of it ;)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Oct 2017 23:45, "Sergey Soldatov" <sergeysoldatov@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Flavio,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It looks like you need to ask the vendor, not
the community
>>>>>>>>>>> about their plan for further releases.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Sergey
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Flavio Pompermaier
<
>>>>>>>>>>> pompermaier@okkam.it> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi to all,
>>>>>>>>>>>> the latest Phoenix Cloudera parcel I can
see is 4.7...any plan
>>>>>>>>>>>> to release a newer version?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd need at least Phoenix 4.9..anyone using
it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Flavio
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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