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From "Assaf Arkin" <ar...@intalio.com>
Subject Re: Ode and GSoC
Date Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:39:13 GMT
On 3/11/08, Matthieu Riou <matthieu@offthelip.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Sorry to play the bad cop but the ExtJS license stinks in several ways
> [1].
> First, it's LGPL v3.0 and the policy isn't quite clear yet as to whether
> we
> can ship that as part of an Apache product. Second, their additional
> restrictions will affect downstream users which is better to avoid. So
> what
> about jQuery or Prototype? :)
>
> Yes, I know, licenses...


I strongly prefer Prototype/jQuery, they're more suitable for building Web
applications because they don't abstract the Web away or try and make it
look like a desktop app.

Assaf


Cheers,
> Matthieu
>
> [1] http://extjs.com/license
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Milinda Pathirage <
> milinda.pathirage@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Tamo,
> >
> > Thank you for your reply. I am now clear about what we have to do. As I
> > understand we have to correctly clarify what technology we are going to
> > use.
> > According to my previous experience wit h web based management system we
> > develop for WSO2 Mashup Server when I was an intern at WSO2, we have
> > clearly
> > analyze this situation and choose the right architecture. AFAIK WSO2
> > Mashup
> > Server has changed it Web Based UI architecture from it's initial
> > architecture, because of the problems attached with heavy Ajax based
> > interface. We have to clearly identify the balance between Ajax and
> > Serverside technology we are going to use.
> >
> > Also it's nice to know you like Ext JS. I am a fan of Ext JS project
> from
> > the beginng of that project. I first use YUI for my projects, but I move
> > to
> > Ext because of the features it has. But I think Ext is somewhat heavy JS
> > library.
> >
> > I'll look in to the code base and try to find way to implement this.
> >
> > Thanks again for your reply. I have some problem with the build system
> of
> > ODE (I am not familiar with this new build system). I'll send a mail to
> > developer list about that.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Milinda Pathirage
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Tammo van Lessen <tvanlessen@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Milinda,
> > >
> > > > If you think I have enough qualifications for this project, can you
> > > > please provide more details about this project. It will be really
> > > > helpful when preparing the proposal.
> > >
> > > absolutely, that sounds great.
> > > Straight from my mind, here is an item list on what I've in mind:
> > >
> > >   o Management
> > >     o deploy/undeploy BPEL deployment bundles
> > >     o start/retire process models
> > >     o suspend/resume process instances
> > >
> > >   o Monitoring
> > >     o List process models and some metrics (with filters)
> > >     o List process instances, their status and some metrics (with
> > filters)
> > >     o Process instance explorer (displays the process model either
> > > graphically or in xml and shows highlights the current navigation
> step,
> > > variable inspector)
> > >
> > >   o Metrics
> > >     o # of process instances
> > >     o # of active instances
> > >     o # of messages received
> > >     o # of messages sent
> > >     o date of last navigation
> > >     o activity (some mixture of the metrics above)
> > >     o (some internal metrics?)
> > >     o ...
> > >
> > > Some sugar would be to think about how to gather and display metrics
> on
> > > business data.
> > >
> > > (Additions/restrictions/comments are welcome)
> > >
> > > Regarding the implementation I'm pretty unemotional. In general I
> prefer
> > > lightweight solutions. I personally like Spring/Spring MVC with some
> > > Ajax abstraction layers but this should be subject of discussions on
> the
> > >  dev list because it affects packaging/dependencies. Since a
> monitoring
> > > application is mostly a "read-only" app, you could also check whether
> > > extjs.com can serve as a well-suited basis (additionally it's damn
> good
> > > looking ;)). AFAIK ext is a pretty comprehensive javascript framework
> > > and doesn't need that much view logic on the server side, so even JSPs
> > > may do the job.
> > >
> > > I'm looking forward to receiving your application (via google), if you
> > > have further questions, don't hesitate to ask me :)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >    Tammo
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://inf-dimensions.blogspot.com "Infinite Dimensions"
> > http://wsaxc.blogspot.com "Web Services With Axis2/C"
> >
>

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