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From Simon Svensson <si...@devhost.se>
Subject Re: Anybody home?
Date Thu, 17 Jan 2019 13:10:43 GMT
Hi,

I imagine that the Reports page in the wiki-page is relevant.
I'm not sure what "located in foundation/board/" refers to.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/LUCENENET/Reports

// Simon Svensson

On 2019-01-17 13:24, Laimonas Simutis wrote:
> Shannon,
> 
> Perhaps that should be our goal, to get the updated website out while
> indicating there that 4.8 is in beta state. Seems like you put in a good
> amount of work and close(?) to the finish line. If you don't mind, you
> could be the next link that keeps this project active until Shad or
> somebody else gets back in :)
> 
> Could this we be our report:
> 
> - stats from NuGet showing the numbers of downloads and how much newest 4.8
> is being fetched?
> - link to the new website docs and that we will work on getting that
> deployed
> - explain that the previous PMC member that delivered the reports became
> unavailable, something like that?
> 
> Prescott, what does it take to deliver the report to the board?
> 
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 3:08 AM Prescott Nasser <geobmx540@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I have been dis-engaged since stepping down as PMC Chair... the board is
>> absolutely casting a wide net to see if there is any activity present.
>>
>> We had teamcity for open source set up at one time -
>> http://teamcity.codebetter.com/viewLog.html?buildId=177083& - a link I
>> pulled out of some old emails, but there have been changes to teamcity
>> infrastructure and I don't know if that integration still lives or how it
>> works anymore. I think Wyatt Barnett set it up... if you're still lurking
>> Wyatt..
>>
>> Those websites do look great, I wish we got them live
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Simon Svensson <sisve@devhost.se>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 12:43 AM
>> To: dev@lucenenet.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Anybody home?
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think that the new website looks awesome.
>>
>> I'm unsure about cc'ing the board; mostly because I am a lurker without
>> that much experience of the Apache way. I was also a bit surprised to see
>> that original message in dev@, but it could just been a wide net to try
>> and contact anyone. (It was also sent to private@.)
>>
>> I totally agree with you, Shannon, about the "problems with this project
>> is not knowing where to start, what needs to be done, etc..."
>>
>> Regarding the unit tests; several of them fail for me. It took me a while
>> to figure out that I need to run the tests in release mode (not debug
>> mode), but there are still some failing tests. There's also a setting in
>> Resharper (under Tools > Unit Testing > General) that allows me to skip
>> tests in the LongRunningTest category.
>>
>> Some fails because of a hardcoded `fail("LUCENENET TODO: Uncaught
>> exceptions on background thread causing test runner crash");` which is
>> wrapped in a `#IF NETCOREAPP2_0`, but I do not know how to run the tests as
>> something else. Is there another build configuration than the one available
>> per default in Visual Studio? Or are these tests that needs to be fixed?
>> There are some other failures for me too, and I'll see if I can start
>> looking into them.
>>
>> Is there a CI server somewhere that runs the tests in different
>> configurations and can give us reports on how it's going?
>>
>> // Simon Svensson
>>
>> On 2019-01-17 00:36, Shannon Deminick wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Last year I had worked on getting the docs website generated for 4.8
>>> along with a new shiny website for the Lucene.Net project. Both are
>>> mostly done but Shad seems to have disappeared and I'm unsure how to
>>> get access to push some of these things.
>>>
>>> I think one of the biggest problems with this project is not knowing
>>> where to start, what needs to be done, etc... there's a barrier to
>>> entry unless you've been heavily involved with this project already. A
>>> lot of this information is buried in these email lists or on some
>>> hidden page of a wiki somewhere.
>>>
>>> Here was the new website format:
>>> https://lucenenetsite.azurewebsites.net/
>>> and the new docs format: https://lucenenetdocs.azurewebsites.net/
>>>
>>> They are not 100% done but not far too go. I do want to keep working
>>> on these and get them live (time isn't on my side recently though).
>>> The PR for this work is here
>>> https://github.com/apache/lucenenet/pull/206 and the remaining work is
>>> really getting the download page to use the CGI page with checksums
>>> (would need the source for that current page
>>> https://lucenenet.apache.org/download.cgi) , to update the
>>> Contribution page to clearly state what remaining work there is on 4.8
>>> and a link to the old (current) website.
>>>
>>> I'd be happy to send the reports needed to apache but don't entirely
>>> know what needs to be done there. Also the Rich Bowen above mentions
>>> that we should be cc'ing  board@apache.org  on this discussion?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 9:58 AM Laimonas Simutis <laimis@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> oops, sent too early, to finish my side note:
>>>>
>>>> If you want to attempt to contribute, you could try
>>>>
>>>> - pull source from https://github.com/apache/lucenenet
>>>> - run tests, (they should be all passing)
>>>> - check out https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/LUCENENET/issues,
>>>> perhaps some would be of interest to you
>>>>
>>>> I have the ability to merge the pull requests but would hesitate to
>>>> get involved unless there is another committer available to bounce
>>>> ideas and run things. Or if Shad is still on, maybe Shad can provide
>> guidance.
>>>>
>>>> Laimonas
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 4:47 PM Laimonas Simutis <laimis@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Simon,
>>>>>
>>>>> Lurker here, just like you! The last I recall the state of the
>>>>> project
>>>> was:
>>>>>
>>>>> - Shad was doing beta builds and gearing up for the official release
>>>>> of
>>>> 4.8
>>>>> - There seemed to be bugs reported on the 4.8 and he was just
>>>>> working on those and doing the follow-up beta builds
>>>>>
>>>>> I contributed regularly over two years ago to get the bugs out of
>>>>> the core and then other things came up. Sometime later Shad took
>>>>> over and
>>>> made
>>>>> great progress but has dropped off since summer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I could find time to contribute I think, but not convinced it is
>>>>> worth
>>>> the
>>>>> time investment. Will it truly matter if this project goes away?
>>>>> Seems
>>>> like
>>>>> a few of us here have warm feelings towards lucene.net for several
>>>>> reasons but outside of that ... not so sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> The community seems to be happily pulling in 3.0.3 builds and moving
>> on.
>>>>> To me, that means that wherever Lucene.net is used, it's some older
>>>>> projects? If you are doing something new in .net you are most likely
>>>> going
>>>>> with .net core and you couldn't use 3.0.3 there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would be cool to see this survive and go on, but is it worth it?
>>>>> That's the question that sort of leads me to not doing anything :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Side note:
>>>>>
>>>>> For those that want to attempt to contribute, pulling from
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Laimonas
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 12:21 PM Simon Svensson <sisve@devhost.se>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been lurking for a long time, but hadn't realized that the
>>>>>> situation was this far gone. So much for situational awareness...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll be clear and state that I'm more of a Lucene.Net user, rather
>>>>>> than a core developer, and I'm not that knowledgeable of the inner
>>>>>> workings of Lucene.Net.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the current state of the 4.8 port? I understand that the
>>>>>> coding has stopped for various reason, but is there any wiki or
>>>>>> documentation available for the current state of affairs? Even if
I
>>>>>> were to dedicate some hours of the week to Lucene.Net, I wouldn't
>>>>>> know where to start. Is it enough to run the test fixtures and check
>> for failures?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A year ago there was some discussions about barriers to entry. I
>>>>>> think that a "mentor" role where someone points at things to work
>>>>>> on would help in getting people started.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also feel that I am not the right guy to submit a report to anyone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, I bet there's more lurkers than me here. Come out of the
>>>>>> shadows, now's the time to assemble! ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> // Simon Svensson
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2019-01-16 18:15, Rich Bowen wrote:
>>>>>>> Once again, we're attempting to discover if anybody is at home
on
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>> project. You've missed your reports for September, October,
>>>>>> November, December, and now January as well. If we don't hear from
>>>>>> you, we will be forced to move you to the attic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please respond, immediately, copying board@apache.org on your
>>>>>> response, to tell us what's going on with you folks. Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Rich Bowen, for the Board of Directors board@apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
> 

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