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From Benson Margulies <>
Subject Re: Lets talk graduation
Date Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:13:00 GMT
I want to clarify that graduation is a somewhat gradual process, and
the early parts are not much work. You create a resolution for the
board that would establish your project. You conduct a community vote.
We conduct an IPMC vote. At the next board meeting, which could then
be as much as 30 days later, the board (hopefully) adopts the

*Then* you have actual work to do to move your code and web site and such.

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Troy Howard <> wrote:
> I'd say we're ready for graduation. Since I'm not really involved in
> the coding effort at the moment, I'll work with Prescott on this
> process.
> The only reservation I have about graduation is losing or lessening
> Stefan Bodewig's involvement. He's been really helpful. Can we keep
> all of our mentors even if we graduate? :)
> Thanks,
> Troy
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Christopher Currens
> <> wrote:
>> I've gone back and forth on whether I think we're ready for graduation or
>> not.  I had always felt like we weren't because the project isn't as active
>> as I'd like it to be.  However, I think I've been looking at it wrong.
>>  We've got a good enough process and we *have* made progress.  If anything,
>> graduating might add an urgency to the project when things get slow, since
>> we'd be an official project and more would be expected.  I don't think
>> anybody wants the project to end up like it did last time, before we gave
>> it a reboot.
>> I'm up for starting this process, but I don't want it to take any time away
>> from getting 3.0.3 released.
>> Thanks,
>> Christopher
>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Benson Margulies <>wrote:
>>> As a mentor, it's my job argue with Itamar a bit. It's not just
>>> semantics. We don't incubate projects indefinitely. I think that you
>>> all are good to go. The transition is not very much work. Please do
>>> draft a resolution and conduct a vote in the community, and we can
>>> then take it to the incubator PMC.
>>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Itamar Syn-Hershko <>
>>> wrote:
>>> > IMHO, whatever brings more attention to the project, and I'm not sure
>>> > graduation is what this project needs right now. In the end it's just
>>> > semantics.
>>> >
>>> > I'd focus those efforts on getting more work done and having more
>>> frequent
>>> > releases. Hence our proposition to sponsor dev, which still stands.
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Prescott Nasser <
>>> >wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> I think with the addition of two new committers we've made some progress
>>> >> in community growth. I think we'll have 3.0.3 out the door soon - are
>>> there
>>> >> any other items we think we need to address before looking to graduate?
>>> >> ~P

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