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From Michael Herndon <mhern...@wickedsoftware.net>
Subject Re: [Lucene.Net] FW: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
Date Fri, 02 Mar 2012 02:47:49 GMT
Is it safe to add content to the site through the CMS again?  Anything to
be wary of or not explicitly do?

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Prescott Nasser <geobmx540@hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> Took all day, but Joe was there babysitting and correcting things for us.
> Basically there is a bug in svn 1.6.17 that the CMS is based on, which is
> making our commits a pain at the moment. Once that gets upgraded it should
> be relatively smooth sailing. It won't help us though if we want still
> planning on updating massive amounts of documentation on a regular basis.
> Thanks Joe, I can't thank you enough for the help today.
>  ~PrescottDate: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:49:48 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
>
> After some testing it appears that this performancebug is fixed in svn
> 1.7, but the CMS is currentlyrunning 1.6.17.  I hope to have the host
> upgradedwithin the next 30 days or so, but for now I stillrecommend using
> the script.
>
>        From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx540@hotmail.com>
>  To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:28 PM
>  Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
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> Alright - sounds good
>
> Thanks again!
>
> ~P
>
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:25:45 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
>
> I'm having some svn people look at the merge issues.Right now all I can
> suggest is that you publish usingthe publish.pl script on
> people.apache.org.  It's takingme about 10 min total to carry that out,
> which is certainlytoo long given the nature of the changes it's merging,but
> I'll let you know what I find
>  out.
>
>        From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx540@hotmail.com>
>  To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:13 PM
>  Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
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> It's butt ugly - all in one directory, 8206 files. I'd prefer a more
> natural docs structure, but that's how it gets generated
>
> ~P
>
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:10:47 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
>
> Ok lemee kill it and use the publish.pl scripton people to see if I can
> get it to work right.Just curious tho- about how many files do youhave
> within that docs dir- all in one dir I presume?
>        From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx540@hotmail.com>
>  To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012
>  5:08 PM
>  Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
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> I'm thinking still merge funk
>
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:05:21 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
>
> Looks like it just completed.  Hmm, goahead and publish and lets try this
> onemore time.
>
>        From: Joe Schaefer
>  <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
>  To: Prescott Nasser <geobmx540@hotmail.com>
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:02 PM
>  Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>
>
> Yeah more merge funk. Leave it run for now,but don't take any further
> action until youhear from me.
>
>        From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx540@hotmail.com>
>  To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>  Sent: Wednesday, February
>  15, 2012 4:59 PM
>  Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
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> I hate to be the bearer of bad news... still taking days to publish (I'm
> not sure if there is a merge error or not) let me know I'll kill this quick
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> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:54:52 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
>
> Yeah try out the webgui and edit/commit/publisha minor change.  It should
> take you no more thana minute or so total.
>
>        From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx540@hotmail.com>
>  To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
>  Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
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> Man that sounds like a tool full of awesome!
>
> Ok - so for the moment no new docs, a simple edit should be quick?
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:48:40 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
>
> Ok it's now fixed and your site should work as expectedat this point.  I
> had to redact the lazy_publish featureand reserve it for admins only
> because you don't actuallyhave permission to completely remove your
> publication
>  sitefrom svn and
>  that's not something I can offer
>  without
>  providingyou and every other
>  committer with the ability to nukeeach other's entire sites.
>
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>     From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
>  To: Prescott Nasser <geobmx540@hotmail.com>
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:20 PM
>  Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>
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> Yeah well it's probably timing out somewhere along the line.I'm looking
> into your svn tree now to see if I can figure outwhat's going on.
>  Basically the svn merge it's running isdoing evil things.
>
>        From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx540@hotmail.com>
>  To:
>  joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:18 PM
>  Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
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> Sorry, I'm not seeing merge errors, just seeing my browser waiting for a
> response..I'll hold up
>
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:15:32 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
>
> Stop Prescott when you get a merge error please.There's something funky
> going on here that I needto dig into and running publish again won't
> magicallyfix it.
>
>
>      From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx540@hotmail.com>
>  To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:52 PM
>  Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
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> Ah ok, I thought we were past that part - I'm losing track, just blinding
> taking orders at this point :)
>
> ~P
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:50:41 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
>
> Yes as I explained before by using lazy_publishyou will incur a
> performance hit the first timeyou subsequently publish normally.  Once
> thiscompletes
>  things should behave
>  properly.
>
>        From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx540@hotmail.com>
>  To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
>
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:48 PM
>  Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
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> small change still seems to be taking longer than it should..
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> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:41:20 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
>
> No a regular publish this time please.
>
>
>  From: Prescott
>  Nasser
>  <geobmx540@hotmail.com>
>  To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:39 PM
>  Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
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> I started the regular publish - but stopped that, should I do a lazy
> publish?
>
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:36:57 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
>
> Ok that seems to have gone thru cleanly this time.Now please make another
> minor edit to the site andlet's flush things thru one last
>  time.
>
>
>     From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
>  To: Prescott Nasser <geobmx540@hotmail.com>; "site-dev@apache.org" <
> site-dev@apache.org>
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:30 PM
>  Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>
>
> I had a bug in lazy_publish- please use that insteadwhen you get an error
> message indicating the mergefailed (like you just did).  I'll keep an eye
> on thingswhile you do.
>
>        From: Prescott Nasser
>  <geobmx540@hotmail.com>
>  To:
>  joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:49 PM
>  Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>
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> So, that worked, site was all there - looking good.
>
> I made a small change to the index.html page (to up the words that it
> shows from the blog roll). And hit publish - I seem to be stuck (taking
> forever)... Not sure why that would occur?
>
>
>
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:31:02 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: geobmx540@hotmail.com
>
> Seems to have
>  worked,
>  no?
>
>     From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx540@hotmail.com>
>  To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:11 PM
>  Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
>
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> Here's goes..
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> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:56:11 -0800
> From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> To: geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
>
> Try https://cms.apache.org/lucene.net/lazy_publish
> Quick and dirty if it works ;-)
>
>
>
>   From: Prescott Nasser
>  <geobmx540@hotmail.com>
>  To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:27 PM
>  Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
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> I'm sorry :( Please by all means take a stab - I'll do nothing until I
> hear  back.
>
> > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:24:46 -0800
> > From: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> > To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; geobmx540@hotmail.com; site-dev@apache.org
> >
> > Well I watched your attempt to publish the site and you guys
> > have managed to break svn merge with too many adds/deletes
> > of the same paths within a single merge session.  I suggest
> > you let me fix your site by nuking the publication tree
> > and copying things over from staging.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
>  Joe Schaefer
>  <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
> > > To:
>  Prescott Nasser
>  <geobmx540@hotmail.com>;
>  "site-dev@apache.org"
>  <site-dev@apache.org>
> > >
>  Cc:
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 12:14 PM
> > > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> ________________________________
> > >>  From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx540@hotmail.com>
> > >> To: joe_schaefer@yahoo.com; site-dev@apache.org
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:58 AM
> > >> Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Thanks Joe, I really appreciate your help.
> > >>
> > >> My next task was to tackle that doc issue. I was experimenting with
> the
> > > upload a
> > >> tarball option hoping that would reduce the number of files in the
> repo, but
> > > I
> > >> found out all it does is unpack it for me, saves me some bandwidth,
> but does
> > >
>  nothing
> > >> to save the tree.
> > >>
> > >> A couple of weeks ago, I was making no changes to the docs (and there
> were
> > > no pending changes that I saw), and just making a minor change to the
> index page
> > > (to announce a new version of Lucene.Net) took FOREVER - same timeout
> issues.
> > > This lead me to believe, that regardless of the size of the change,
> the number
> > > of files will always be a PIA. But it seems like that shouldn't be the
> case?
> > >
> > >
> > > Hard to say what the cause of that delay was, but I can assure you it
> had little
> > > or nothing
> > > to do with the overall size of your site.  The only O(N) algorithm
> involved is
> > > when the build
> > > system svn up's the tree, and if the changes are already present that
> > > process shouldn't take
> > > more
>  than a handful of seconds even for a 10GB site.  Of course the actual time
> > > may fluctuate
> > > wildly due to server conditions on the cms or svn host systems, but
> there you
> > > go.
> > >
> > >
> > > I just added some docs about this to the bottom of the
> > > http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref page
> > > you might want to look over.
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> I will publish what we have now (need to fix a minor issue in the
> 2.9.4
> > > documentation first), and give a shot at making a minor change.
> Hopefully
> > > publishing just a minor change in that case will be quick and painless.
> > >
> > >
> > > Good luck.  I suggest using the publish.pl script on people.apache.organd
> > > grabbing a cuppa
>  coffee
> > >
>  while things progress.
> > >
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