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From Grant Ingersoll <gsing...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Graduation
Date Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:38:32 GMT
I don't know if it is ready for a vote (it may be), but I think we  
should make sure our ducks are in a row, first.


On Mar 4, 2009, at 6:31 AM, George Aroush wrote:

> Hi Grant,
>
> I will open this up for a vote, and then take the result of it to
> @incubator.apache.org for final approval.
>
> Regards,
>
> -- George 
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Grant Ingersoll [mailto:gsingers@apache.org]
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 8:42 AM
>> To: lucene-net-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Graduation
>>
>> Any thoughts on this?  I really believe .NET is close (if not
>> ready) to graduate.  It's been in incubation for a long time
>> now and from what I can tell it meets much of the criteria below.
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>>
>>> Here are the requirements:
>>>
>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/ 
>> Incubation_Policy.html#Graduati
>>> ng+from+the+Incubator
>>> and are pasted below.
>>>
>>> It seems that you don't have to actually release, but you
>> need to have
>>> release plans.  So, what are your plans for release?  Can you
>>> guys provide status on the other stuff?   I'm sure you have the
>>> Alignment stuff down and I'm guessing all the
>> Infrastructure stuff is
>>> done, since I doubt you need GUMP integration.  What about
>> the legal
>>> stuff?  Presumably, y'all have CLAs on file, otherwise you wouldn't
>>> have an account.  Looks like:
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/lucene.net.html
>>> needs to be updated to reflect that there are now three committers
>>> and to reflect the other status items.
>>>
>>> Being in incubation since 2006 is too long in my book, but it seems
>>> like you have a decent community here now, and, since you
>> are going to
>>> be a subproject, I think the standards are a bit different from TLP
>>> anyway.
>>>
>>> Can we work to get this going?  Looks like most of it
>> should just be
>>> some bookkeeping at this point.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Grant
>>>
>>> <snip
>>>
>> url="http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/ 
>> Incubation_Policy.html#Gra
>>> duating+from+the+Incubator
>>> ">
>>>
>>>   *   Legal
>>>   *
>>>         o All code ASL'ed
>>>         o The code base must contain only ASL or ASL-compatible
>>> dependencies
>>>         o License grant complete
>>>         o CLAs on file.
>>>         o Check of project name for trademark issues
>>>
>>>   * Meritocracy / Community
>>>   *
>>>         o Demonstrate an active and diverse development community
>>>         o The project is not highly dependent on any single
>>> contributor (there are at least 3 legally independent
>> committers and
>>> there is no single company or entity that is vital to the
>> success of
>>> the project)
>>>         o The above implies that new committers are admitted
>>> according to ASF practices
>>>         o ASF style voting has been adopted and is
>> standard practice
>>>         o Demonstrate ability to tolerate and resolve
>> conflict within
>>> the community.
>>>         o Release plans are developed and excuted in public by the
>>> community.
>>>         o
>>>               + (requirement on minimum number of such releases?)
>>>               + Note: incubator projects are not permitted
>> to issue
>>> an official Release. Test snapshots (however good the quality) and
>>> Release plans are OK.
>>>         o Engagement by the incubated community with the other ASF
>>> communities, particularly infrastructure@ (this reflects my
>> personal
>>> bias that projects should pay an nfrastructure "tax").
>>>         o Incubator PMC has voted for graduation
>>>         o Destination PMC, or ASF Board for a TLP, has voted for
>>> final acceptance
>>>
>>>   * Alignment / Synergy
>>>   *
>>>         o Use of other ASF subprojects
>>>         o Develop synergistic relationship with other ASF
>> subprojects
>>>
>>>   * Infrastructure
>>>   *
>>>         o SVN module has been created
>>>         o Mailing list(s) have been created
>>>         o Mailing lists are being archived
>>>         o Issue tracker has been created
>>>         o Project website has been created
>>>         o Project ready to comply with ASF mirroring guidelines
>>>         o Project is integrated with GUMP if appropriate
>>>         o Releases are PGP signed by a member of the community
>>>         o Developers tied into ASF PGP web of trust
>>>
>>> </snip>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 9, 2009, at 8:02 AM, George Aroush wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Grant,
>>>>
>>>> Has the requirement for graduation been relaxed?  Just
>> from a release
>>>> perspective, Lucene.Net has been in incubation since April
>> 2006, and
>>>> since than we had only one official release, Lucene.Net
>> 2.0 on April
>>>> 2007.  In addition, the new committers, Doug and DIGY
>> don't have any
>>>> release experience yet.
>>>>
>>>> Don't get me wrong, I'm all for graduation, but without a
>> sustained
>>>> release, I don't think we will be approved.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> -- George
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Grant Ingersoll [mailto:gsingers@apache.org]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:53 AM
>>>>> To: lucene-net-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: Graduation
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> Grant over in PMC land here.  Seems like you've got a pretty good
>>>>> base going and have a few committers, what say you to
>> thinking about
>>>>> graduation?  Can someone take a look into it?
>>>>> Incubation is not a place to live for a long period of time.
>>>>> Besides, we want you over in Lucene land full-time!
>>>>>
>>>>> Since you are graduating to a sub-project, I believe the
>>>>> requirements for grad. aren't the same as TLP.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Grant
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------
>>>>> Grant Ingersoll
>>>>> http://www.lucidimagination.com/
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------
>>> Grant Ingersoll
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>>>
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>>
>> --------------------------
>> Grant Ingersoll
>> http://www.lucidimagination.com/
>>
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>>
>

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