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From "George Aroush" <geo...@aroush.net>
Subject RE: Compression Implementation
Date Mon, 15 May 2006 20:48:14 GMT
Hi Eyal,

First thanks for taking on this task, it's much appreciated.

The reason why I believe we need a reflection base solution is because the
current code of Lucene.Net must remain independent of 3rd party requirement.
For example, if you look at the Test code for Lucene.Net, you can't compile
or run it without having NUnit be installed on your machine and have the
code reference the library.  If your solution will have similar requirement,
then I don't think we can accept it for 1.9.

Reflection seems to me is the only way to save this problem.

After putting together the reflection code in Lucene.Net's code base, we
still have to provide an interface which a user much code to in order for
the compression code to be in a working order and utilized by Lucene.Net.
But this code, because it's not a physical part of Lucene.Net, it doesn't
put any restriction on Lucene.Net to require a 3rd party library/code to be
present to use Lucene.Net -- unless if the user wants compression.

Again, thanks for taking on this task.

Regards,

-- George Aroush

-----Original Message-----
From: Eyal Post [mailto:eyalpost@epocalipse.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 4:24 PM
To: lucene-net-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Compression Implementation

I'm on it. 
Just wondering, why take the reflection way and not the interface way?
Interface way seems more "correct" and will also perform better. 

Eyal 
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: George Aroush [mailto:george@aroush.net]
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 21:54 PM
> To: lucene-net-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Compression Implementation
> 
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> We need compression support in Lucene.Net 1.9 using .NET 1.1 otherwise 
> 1.9 can't be declared compatible with it's Java based index.  Beside, 
> doing reflection to provide a plug-in solution to a 3rd party 
> compression isn't hard.
> 
> Eyal already asked if he can work on this part.  I said yes but I have 
> not heard back from him yet.
> 
> Eyal: If you are reading this, please let us know if you are taking on 
> this task or not.  Thanks!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- George Aroush
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Rodenburg [mailto:jeff.rodenburg@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 12:32 PM
> To: lucene-net-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Compression Implementation
> 
> Looking at this from a bit broader perspective, this opens up a bigger 
> conversation.
> 
> While working to implement a third-party hook-by-reflection process 
> into the code, the .NET 2.0 framework already contains the appropriate 
> classes to handle compression.
> While there's a need for .NET 1.1 compliance, doing so with a 
> round-about method seems more like an exception approach vs.
> a standard approach.
> 
> I don't mean to suggest that usage for the 1.1 Framework be abandoned; 
> I'm sure there is greater 1.1 usage out in the world as opposed to 
> 2.0.
> However, jumping through hoops to support 1.1 is also just a stopgap.  
> I know there is a plan to move to the 2.0 Framework later on when the 
> java-based Lucene project hits its 2.0 definition.
> 
> Would it be worthwhile to consider a side-by-side port to the 
> 2.0Framework?
> I ported
> 1.4.3 to the 2.0 Framework myself last winter, and it has changed a 
> few underlying things as well as improved several core classes.  
> Having used the 2.0 Framework for the past 6 months, I would strongly 
> suggest we consider this as a possible solution.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> -- j
> 
> On 5/11/06, George Aroush <george@aroush.net> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Johnny,
> >
> > I have to keep Lucene.Net 1.9 .NET 1.1 compliant.  Since .NET 1.1 
> > doesn't have compression API, I couldn't implement this
> port -- thus,
> > I left it out.
> >
> > My idea on how to resolve this is to use reflection and through 
> > reflection, one can integrate a 3rd party compression into
> Lucene.Net
> > 1.9.  If you want to take on this part, please do and submit your 
> > code.  Your effort will be more then welcome and is a path
> to becoming
> > a committer for Lucene.Net.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -- George Aroush
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: J C [mailto:roamingcode@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 7:51 PM
> > To: lucene-net-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Compression Implementation
> > Importance: High
> >
> > Hello George
> >
> > I have found this:
> > // {{Aroush-1.9}} for .NET 1.1, we can use reflection and ZLib?
> > in FieldsWriter.cs. It seems that the ZIP compression is not yet 
> > implemented.
> >
> > I would like to give it a try. Please confirm.
> >
> > Regards
> > Johnny
> >
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