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From James Bognar <jamesbog...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSSION] Ready for graduation?
Date Mon, 02 Oct 2017 13:06:02 GMT
Hi John,

The links I'm referring to are in the Graduation Check List section.  The
links point to non-existent anchors (e.g. "#notes-status").

On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 10:30 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
wrote:

> I'd also be happy to stay on the PMC.
>
> I've mentioned before what I'd like to see the flow be, based on what I've
> seen as successful.
>
> - Have a formal discussion here, if we think we're good that's fine.
> - Start a vote.  We'll want to forward the vote to the IPMC on general@
> - Prepare the charter, Craig's sent out links for this
> - Once we've agreed on the charter here, use that as the basis for
> discussion on general@incubator
> - Start & complete the vote (normal 72 hour window)
>
> Once we get through that, we'll go over how to submit the resolution to the
> board.
>
> I have updated the status file if anyone else can review it -
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/juneau.html
>
> James, if you can send out specifically what links are broken that would
> help.  The most common issue I've seen is link: not converting properly.
> It's a weird reason each time.
>
> John
>
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 8:24 PM Craig Russell <apache.clr@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Next step would be to draft a graduation proposal, which you can find
> > here: https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/juneau
> >
> > The page suggests discussing the proposal on the PPMC private list but I
> > think there is benefit in discussing on the dev list.
> >
> > Circulate the proposal, see if everyone who is proposed to be on the PMC
> > wants to continue. See if there is a volunteer to be PMC chair,
> recognizing
> > that PMC chair is simply administrative not leadership.
> >
> > Personally, I'd like to continue to contribute as part of the PMC.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> > > On Oct 1, 2017, at 12:26 PM, James Bognar <jamesbognar@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think we’re in agreement that we would like to go forward (or at
> least
> > I
> > > haven’t seen any objections).  I think we should start a vote.
> > >
> > > I’ll be willing to work on the proposal/charter.
> > >
> > > BTW....this page has many dead links...
> > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 11:11 AM John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ping.
> > >>
> > >> Guys, what can I do to help keep this going?
> > >>
> > >> John
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 8:54 AM John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> We shouldn't wait for the PNS to be complete for doing the graduation
> > >>> discussions.  We should keep that going and ideally get it in front
> of
> > >> the
> > >>> board for this reporting cycle.
> > >>>
> > >>> John
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 5:18 AM David Goddard <goddard@acm.org>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I’m a latecomer - I don’t think I used JSON4J…
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Until the logo discussion I hadn’t realised Juneau was named
after
> an
> > >>>> Alaskan town - I thought of it as Juno with a French accent.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Formally: +1 from me for initiating graduation.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On 27 Sep 2017, at 17:35, James Bognar <jamesbognar@apache.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Yea...it's been through the following names...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> JSON4J (back in 2007)
> > >>>>> JJSON - Changed because JSON4J was used by SEVERAL other projects.
> > >>>>> Juno - Changed because it evolved into more than just a JSON
> toolkit.
> > >>>>> Juneau - Changed because the Eclipse foundation took the name
> 'Juno'.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:13 AM, David Goddard <goddard@acm.org>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> I think Juneau is the third name it’s been through since
I’ve been
> > >>>> using
> > >>>>>> it… I’m happy to stick with that :)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On 27 Sep 2017, at 14:39, James Bognar <jamesbognar@apache.org>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> BTW....before I begin, is the team comfortable with
the name
> > >> "Juneau"?
> > >>>>>> Or
> > >>>>>>> do we want to try to come up with something else?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 9:11 AM, James Bognar <
> > >> jamesbognar@apache.org
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Yep...I'll get started on the podling name search.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Here are the releases so far:
> > >>>>>>>> 6.0.0 - Oct 3, 2016
> > >>>>>>>> 6.0.1 - Jan 3, 2017
> > >>>>>>>> 6.1.0 - Feb 25, 2017
> > >>>>>>>> 6.2.0 - Apr 28, 2017
> > >>>>>>>> 6.3.0 - Jun 30, 2017
> > >>>>>>>> 6.3.1 - Aug 1, 2017
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 7:45 PM, John D. Ament
<
> > >>>> johndament@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> It depends on what you're trying to update.
 I'll go through it
> > >>>> tonight
> > >>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>> apply updates, but it may help if I had a full
list of releases
> > >> and
> > >>>>>> dates
> > >>>>>>>>> we have performed (I can probably dig it up
via e-mail).
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I pointed out before, the podling name search
is not complete
> for
> > >>>>>> Juneau.
> > >>>>>>>>> We'll want to submit that before formally talking
about
> > >> graduation.
> > >>>>>> Can
> > >>>>>>>>> you submit this James?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> John
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:55 PM James Bognar
<
> > >> jamesbognar@gmail.com
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Stupid question....is the juneau.html page
used anymore?  I
> > >>>> thought it
> > >>>>>>>>> was
> > >>>>>>>>>> taken over by the Whimsy page.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Craig
Russell <
> > >>>> apache.clr@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> As part of the discussion, please review
> > >>>>>>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/
> > >>>>>>>>>>> guides/graduation.html for information
and review
> > >>>>>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/juneau.html
for
> > >> completeness
> > >>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>> accuracy. If you do not have karma
to update the juneau.html
> > let
> > >>>>>>>>> mentors
> > >>>>>>>>>>> know.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I think Juneau is pretty close to graduation.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Craig
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 26, 2017, at 1:57 PM, James
Bognar <
> > >>>> jamesbognar@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Steve and Raphi have now been added
as PPMC members to the
> > >> team.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts by the team on starting
graduation discussion?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 4:16 PM,
James Bognar <
> > >>>>>>>>> jamesbognar@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going off of the PPMC roster...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/juneau
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 4:08
PM, John D. Ament <
> > >>>>>>>>> johndament@apache.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who are the six you are
counting?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at
4:04 PM James Bognar <
> > >>>>>>>>> jamesbognar@apache.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we should start
a discussion on whether we're
> ready
> > >> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>> graduate
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a TLP.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We joined as an incubator
project in June 2016.  Since
> then
> > >>>> we've
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> released
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6 versions of Apache
Juneau (6.4.0 will be the 7th) and
> > >>>>>>>>> accomplished
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> significant collaboration
with the Apache Streams team.
> > All
> > >>>>>>>>>> releases
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gone smoothly, and
we've introduced an impressive number
> of
> > >>>> new
> > >>>>>>>>>>> features
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and enhancements over
that time.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We currently have 6
active members in the PPMC.  This is
> a
> > >> bit
> > >>>>>>>>> light
> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graduation, but I'm
confident that this will continue to
> > >> grow
> > >>>>>>>>> once
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we're a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TLP.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What say we?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Craig L Russell
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
> > >>>>>>>>>>> clr@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> >
> > Craig L Russell
> > Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
> > clr@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo
> >
> >
>

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