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From James Bognar <james.bog...@salesforce.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] - Which bug tracking system should we be using.
Date Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:25:24 GMT
Thanks Stian.  I guess this vote thread morphed into a discussion.  I
didn't anticipate such a lively discussion. :-)

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 5:52 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes <stain@apache.org>
wrote:

> On 28 June 2016 at 14:56, James Bognar <james.bognar@salesforce.com>
> wrote:
>
> > To vote, put [-1](opposed), [0] (no preference), or [1](support) next to
> > each choice...
>
> While the use of -1/0/+1 is how I would expect, I think it's premature
> to start a formal [VOTE] before the options have been discussed
> informally (as we seem to be doing in the rest of this thread). It's
> common to first do a [DISCUSS], and only resort to a [VOTE] if
> consensus can't be made. [1]
>
> This also helps to keep the actual [VOTE] thread clean. A long [VOTE]
> discussion tends to scare people away from voting.
>
>
> [VOTE]s are however required for two things:
>
> 1) Releases [2], which must be open for 72 hours, have +3 "binding"
> votes from Juneau PPMC members and more positive than negative.  (and
> while in the incubator, +3 incubator IPMC members/mentors)
>
> and
>
> 2) Accepting new committers and/or PPMC members (this is done on
> private@juneau for obvious reasons)
>
>
> But for both it's good to have an informal email first to feel the
> mood, e.g. "Are we in a good shape to do a release? Anything
> outstanding? I'm willing to be the Release Manager, and will start
> preparing a Release Candidate on Wednesday unless I hear otherwise. "
> -- or (on private@) "I'm thinking of suggesting Alice W. Land as a
> committer, she has contributed many patches and seem to have a good
> understanding. What do you think?"
>
>
> For other situations, it can often be suitable to do a "Lazy
> consensus", e.g. "I want to change Juneau to use Java 8, this is a
> Lazy Consensus vote that passes in 72 hours if no negative votes are
> received.". [3]
>
>
>
> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
> [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#approving-a-release
> [3] http://apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#decision-making
>



-- 
James Bognar

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