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From Ming Wen <wenm...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Date Fri, 14 Aug 2020 03:35:18 GMT
> Thanks for the honesty, I prefer you should adjust the proposal to match
> the reality. Such as
> 1. Just open-sourced
> 2. Have a risk of being an orphaned project
> 3. Community development would be a challenge

As mentioned in wusheng’s previous email, the challenge should be stated in
the proposal.

Thanks,
Ming Wen, Apache APISIX & Apache SkyWalking
Twitter: _WenMing


Eason Chen <daerduochen@qq.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 上午10:52写道:

> Thanks for your help and answers @Duane, i will initiate the voting
> processs later if you have no other questions.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------&nbsp;原始邮件&nbsp;------------------
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>                                                                     <
> duane.pauls@gmail.com&gt;;
> 发送时间:&nbsp;2020年8月11日(星期二) 凌晨0:16
> 收件人:&nbsp;"legal-discuss"<legal-discuss@apache.org&gt;;
> 抄送:&nbsp;"general"<general@incubator.apache.org&gt;;
> 主题:&nbsp;Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
>
>
>
> I work for Solace and have consulted internally to confirm that we do not
> have any copyright or trademark on the term “Event Mesh”. It’s true it is
> something our products are closely aligned with, but it is an industry term
> that has been adopted by Gartner and is gaining traction in the industry.
> Solace does not oppose the term being used in other applicable products or
> projects.
>
> +1 (non-binding) on the idea.
>
> Cheers,
> Duane
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 11:51 AM heng du <duhengforever@apache.org&gt;
> wrote:
>
> &gt; Hi @Michael
> &gt;
> &gt; Thanks for your advice. As far as I know, Solace doesn't have a
> product
> &gt; called Eventmesh, They're just using that name to promote their PubSub
> &gt; platform.
> &gt;
> &gt; But in order not to cause trouble in the future, I also ask guys of
> Apache
> &gt; Brand to help check whether this name is appropriate. For us, we've
> been
> &gt; using the name EventMesh for a long time, and we want to keep it so
> that
> &gt; users can get better product positioning from the name.
> &gt;
> &gt; And base on this document[1], we searched in the U.S. Patent
> Office[2] and
> &gt; found nothing inappropriate.
> &gt;
> &gt; [1] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html
> &gt; [2] https://www.uspto.gov/trademark
> &gt;
> &gt; Thanks
> &gt; Henry
> &gt;
> &gt; Michael André Pearce <michael.andre.pearce@me.com.invalid&gt;
> 于2020年8月6日周四
> &gt; 下午3:33写道:
> &gt;
> &gt;&gt; Hi
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; Im PMC member from ActiveMQ project.
> &gt;&gt; I like the idea, nice. +1 on it as a project idea.
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; I am though a little -1 on the name of the project, I would
> recommend
> &gt;&gt; that an alternative name for the project is found as there maybe
> a conflict
> &gt;&gt; in rights ability to copyright and trademark to it.
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; I’m aware there is a commercial vendor messaging company called
> Solace,
> &gt;&gt; where they use and market their product with heavy use of the
> name Event
> &gt;&gt; Mesh, you can see this just googling event mesh, brings back many
> hits to
> &gt;&gt; their products, marketing material and other records, so they may
> hold a
> &gt;&gt; heavy claim to this name.
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; Best
> &gt;&gt; Michael
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; &gt; On 4 Aug 2020, at 18:33, Kevin Ratnasekera <
> djkevincr1989@gmail.com&gt;
> &gt;&gt; wrote:
> &gt;&gt; &gt;
> &gt;&gt; &gt; Hi Easen,
> &gt;&gt; &gt;
> &gt;&gt; &gt; +1, Having worked in a similar domain so far, I have to say
> this is an
> &gt;&gt; &gt; interesting project. If you are seeking new mentors, please
> consider
> &gt;&gt; adding
> &gt;&gt; &gt; me as a mentor to the project.
> &gt;&gt; &gt;
> &gt;&gt; &gt; Regards
> &gt;&gt; &gt; Kevin
> &gt;&gt; &gt;
> &gt;&gt; &gt; On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 3:34 PM Eason Chen <
> daerduochen@qq.com&gt; wrote:
> &gt;&gt; &gt;
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Good time of the time to all!
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I'd like to bring this new interesting project for
the
> discussion,
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; comments and feedback with the aim of starting a formal
> [VOTE] of its
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; acceptance into Incubator.
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some
of
> them were
> &gt;&gt; behind
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the Apache RocketMQ, which I consider a huge
> success(especially in
> &gt;&gt; China)as
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the community is literally thriving almost 3 years
after
> the
> &gt;&gt; graduation.
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I have been involved a little bit with this project
when
> it just
> &gt;&gt; started
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; in WeBank a few years ago. And I'd like to emphasize
> that the community
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; however small it might look so far, has been aligned
> with Apache ways
> &gt;&gt; of
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; doing things. Heng Du (from RocketMQ PMC) is very
> instrumental in
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; tirelessly helping this group to learn what it means
to
> be a truly open
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; source project.
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly
> available. As you will
> &gt;&gt; see
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; it has a lot of dependency connections with the rest
of
> Apache
> &gt;&gt; ecosystem
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; and IMO will fit very well here and continue to grow
the
> community.
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; The project's proposal is available at [1].
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Thank you very much for the feedback you're willing
to
> provide!
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &amp;nbsp;With best regards,
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &amp;nbsp;Eason Chen
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; [1]
> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt;
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/EventMeshProposal
> &gt;&gt
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/EventMeshProposal&gt;&gt>
> ;
> &gt;&gt;
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