From general-return-73564-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Mon Jul 13 05:55:26 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [207.244.88.153]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD39A1ACBC for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 05:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7526 invoked by uid 500); 13 Jul 2020 05:55:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 7246 invoked by uid 500); 13 Jul 2020 05:55:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 7234 invoked by uid 99); 13 Jul 2020 05:55:21 -0000 Received: from ui-eu-02.ponee.io (HELO localhost) (116.202.110.96) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 05:55:21 +0000 X-Mailer: LuaSocket 3.0-rc1 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Sheng Zha To: In-Reply-To: <8256D4A4-64CD-44F9-B198-01C700B35E4C@classsoftware.com> Message-ID: x-ponymail-sender: fd9da504b63c1736e52a84ae954da2a315f2f28a References: <8256D4A4-64CD-44F9-B198-01C700B35E4C@classsoftware.com> <36073B94-6550-479F-982B-C2EE07E90CF4@classsoftware.com> <7EB25478-12EB-430F-8A5F-BABA8B35721C@classsoftware.com> <58ED0F06-576A-43E7-9BA3-9DBF66BD1A63@classsoftware.com> x-ponymail-agent: PonyMail Composer/0.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Subject: Re: [VOTE] Distribution guidelines for platforms Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 05:55:20 -0000 > > Personally, I believe that interpretation is still making new rules. > Please point to one of these new rules. Again, in my opinion, the act of interpretation of existing rules in a new context is making new rules. Thus, all the rules in the guidelines are new rules. > > As a podling PPMC member, my main concern from the disagreement in this thread is that we may end up > > seeing podlings being bound by additional rules that the top-level projects are not bound to. > Well another alternative I see is to ban the use of all alternative channels until we do have ASF policy in place for their use. I don’t think projects would be happy with that. I'm not sure whether that would be the only alternative. If this is indeed the case, I think it would be extremely concerning if the incubator is to ban all podlings from using non-ASF distribution channels. It would be an act that forces podlings that rely on non-ASF distribution channels to retire, making the name "incubator" rather insincere to them, if not ironic. Best, Sheng On 2020/07/13 05:38:16, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > This description suggests that the nature of this guideline is the interpretation of the > > existing Apache policies in the context of distribution on third-party platform. > > That is correct. > > > Personally, I believe that interpretation is still making new rules. > > Please point to one of these new rules. Everything in come from existing ASF policy put into context for these platforms. This is advice to help projects comply with policy. Some podlings are currently not doing that. How else would you suggest we fix that? > > > As a podling PPMC member, my main concern from the disagreement in this thread is that we may end up > > seeing podlings being bound by additional rules that the top-level projects are not bound to. > > Well another alternative I see is to ban the use of all alternative channels until we do have ASF policy in place for their use. I don’t think projects would be happy with that. > > Thanks, > Justin > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org