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([2405:6e00:10f9:8600:25bf:cc58:2ebc:baad]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id gv16sm13945036pjb.5.2020.07.13.00.51.18 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 13 Jul 2020 00:51:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Justin Mclean Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.14\)) Subject: Re: [VOTE] Distribution guidelines for platforms Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:51:16 +1000 References: <80957758-1446-433D-A38A-40637D16128E@gmail.com> To: general@incubator.apache.org In-Reply-To: <80957758-1446-433D-A38A-40637D16128E@gmail.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.14) Hi, > I think all of these situations can occur with or without the new = incubator policy. It possibles yes, but they would be less likely to occur. > his can only be more restrictive than the original ASF policies. These are not more restrictive than current policy. I really don=E2=80=99t= understand why you think that they are. Please point out where that is = the case and I=E2=80=99ll correct it. > If there=E2=80=99s consensus on the guideline among the TLPs There probably is not consensus among TLP on this and different projects = will do it in different ways. That is fine as long as it complies, but = working that does can be difficult. Some TLP projects may not be = complying with policy and not be aware of it, which may become a future = issue. Even worse podlings may copy them rather that actually reading = and understanding ASF policy or the intent behind it. This document allows for a variety of interpretation - "All of the above = SHOULD be followed. The podling can ask the IPMC for permission to do = otherwise.=E2=80=9D Note the use of the word SHOULD rather than MUST. = SHOULD means unless you have a good reason to do otherwise. > and everyone agrees with your assessment, why would it take ASF years = to reach consensus on them? It taken years to get to this point and these issues and the like have = been discussed for over a decade without resolution and that=E2=80=99s = why policy don=E2=80=99t exist. The current board is trying to address = that but it=E2=80=99s likely to be a slow process. The fact that once again this discussion has got derailed leaves me with = very little hope that this will get resolved. A large amount of work has = been put into this by many people, and it's unfortunate that these = objections were brought up so late in the process. Thanks, Justin= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org