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From Sheng Zha <szha....@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Release Apache MXNet (incubating) version 1.7.0.rc1
Date Sun, 26 Jul 2020 04:34:35 GMT
Hi Justin,

Thanks for voting. Here are some clarifications:
For mshadow, it is a third-party component that MXNet has been relying on
since the initial contribution to MXNet. It has been included in previous
releases since its category-A license allows us to do so. For this release,
we are still releasing it as a third-party module, as evidenced by the
content of our LICENSE file [1]. Releasing with mshadow as a third-party
component hasn't been an issue in our past releases, and I believe the
separate assimilation process of this project and the IP clearance should
not affect this release either.

For link 1. the sourceforge mirror, it's an automatic mirror of GitHub that
we have no control over [2]. Our release process generates a tag for our
release candidates which is automatically mirrored there. Their editors
pick popular projects for automatic mirroring. For example, see also the
RCs of skywalking [3].

For 2-5, DJL is a third-party project that depends on MXNet, not a
component of MXNet. We PPMC don't own or manage those artifacts. We will
track its trademark usage problem in our private list.

Finally, it would be great if you could help clarify what compilation
problem you had. Many people verified this artifact on the dev@ vote so
such an issue is a surprise to us.

Best,
Sheng

[1]
https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/blob/1.7.0.rc1/LICENSE#L232-L234
[2]
https://sourceforge.net/mirror/apache-mxnet/activity/?page=0&limit=100#5f10277b87027aedf0d7c167
[3] https://sourceforge.net/projects/apache-skywalking.mirror/files/


On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 6:28 PM Justin Mclean <justin@classsoftware.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> -1 (binding) as this release contains code that hasn’t gone though IP
> clearance (mshadow).
>
> I checked:
> - incubating in name
> - disclaimer exists
> - LICENSE and NOTICE have improved but I did not do an exhaustive check
> -  No unexpected binary file
> - ASF files have ASF headers
> - unable to compile from source
>
> It also seems that this code may have been released before the PPMC/IPMC
> vote is over see [1][2][3][4] There are also branding and trademark issue
> with this site [5] This is in addition to the issues previously noted with
> releases, branding and trademarks.[6]
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
>
> 1. https://sourceforge.net/projects/apache-mxnet.mirror/
> 2.
> https://repo.gradle.org/gradle/simple/repo/ai/djl/mxnet/mxnet-native-mkl/1.7.0-b/
> 3. https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/ai.djl.mxnet
> 4.
> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0&SeB=nd&K=mxnet&SB=v&SO=d&PP=50&do_Search=Go
> 5. https://djl.ai
> 6. https://jira.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-253
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