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From Eya Badal Abdisho <eya.abdi...@bitnine.net>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Project proposal - Apache AgensGraph
Date Fri, 10 Apr 2020 00:56:04 GMT


On 2020/04/09 19:42:59, Stephen Mallette <spmallette@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >
> > On 2020/04/08 14:02:26, Stephen Mallette <spmallette@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Just a general question from someone who tries to follow what happens in
> > > the graph community in general - what is the relationship between
> > > "AgensGraph" and  "AgensGraph Extensions"?
> > >
> > >Agensgraph is a fork of Postgres, where the source code was directly
> > modified to implement the Cypher query language. Agensgraph Extension
> > utilizes Postgre’s extensibility features to add the Cypher query
> > languages, without any modification to Postgres’ source code. The
> > Agensgraph community requested that it be an extension instead, so we began
> > development on Agensgraph Extension
> 
> 
> Thank you, the difference is clear to me now. I imagine the incubator will
> sort out if the naming is a problem from trademark perspectives.
> 
> Again, for my own edification, could you perhaps explain a bit further what
> the difference users experience between AgensGraph and AgensGraph
> Extensions? Is there some advantage to AgensGraph being an extension to
> postgres rather than being embedded as part of the postgres code itself? If
> these kinds of questions are answered elsewhere, I'm happy to take a link
> and go back to being quiet until the next graph product comes through
> Incubator :)
> 
My pleasure, I am glad it is clear now :) So the difference between AgensGraph and AgensGraph
Extension when it comes to user experience is that In AgensGraph user needs to migrate their
existing data, if any, and follow some steps in this regard whereas in Agensgraph Extension
all these steps such as migration are eliminated. In AgensGraph Extension user can use existing
data without migration to enable graph database.
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 3:25 PM Eya Badal Abdisho <eya.abdisho@bitnine.net>
> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > On 2020/04/08 14:02:26, Stephen Mallette <spmallette@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Just a general question from someone who tries to follow what happens in
> > > the graph community in general - what is the relationship between
> > > "AgensGraph" and  "AgensGraph Extensions"?
> > >
> > >Agensgraph is a fork of Postgres, where the source code was directly
> > modified to implement the Cypher query language. Agensgraph Extension
> > utilizes Postgre’s extensibility features to add the Cypher query
> > languages, without any modification to Postgres’ source code. The
> > Agensgraph community requested that it be an extension instead, so we began
> > development on Agensgraph Extension.
> > >
> > > https://github.com/bitnine-oss/agensgraph
> > > https://github.com/bitnine-oss/agensgraph-ext
> > >
> > > I see that the README for AgensGraph Extensions  says:
> > >
> > > > AgensGraph Extension, which is a successor of AgensGraph, is developed
> > as
> > > an extension of PostgreSQL.
> > >
> > > and I see where the proposal states:
> > >
> > > > Prior to AgensGraph extension, there was an existing forked project
> > which
> > > is publicly available as an open-source on the following link:
> > > https://github.com/bitnine-oss/agensgraph
> > >
> > > > While working on the fork version of this project, we found out that
> > > there are increasing voices asking for an extension of AgensGraph. It was
> > > then when we decided to develop and work on the extension version to
> > > provide more benefits to PostgreSQL users such as easy installation and
> > > compatibility.
> > >
> > > so does all of this just mean that AgensGraph is no longer under
> > > development and all new development is for AgensGraph Extensions? Or am I
> > > missing the difference between these two projects somehow and how they
> > > relate to each other?
> > >
> > > AgensGraph has been an open source project for about 3 years. There are
> > community users who use AgensGraph in their academic projects and others.
> > Therefore, AgensGraph will be in maintenance mode (e.g. bug fixes and
> > syncing with PostgreSQL version) so that the community users can use
> > AgensGraph in their projects continuously.
> > AgensGraph Extension has "Extension" in its name because it is being
> > developed as an extension of PostgreSQL. AgensGraph is a fork of PostgreSQL.
> >
> > > Stephen
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 9:43 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <
> > > bdelacretaz@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 3:32 PM Jim Jagielski <jim@jagunet.com> wrote:
> > > > > The proposal can be found here:
> > > > >     o
> > > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/AgensGraphExtension
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > +1, interesting project IMO and proposal looks good to me!
> > > >
> > > > -Bertrand
> > > >
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