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From "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org>
Subject Re: "Fork Me" on GitHub (was Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ShardingSphere (incubating) as a TLP)
Date Fri, 27 Mar 2020 14:46:26 GMT
The problem is that "fork" means two different things, and that some
members seem to be interpreting fork in the sense of a project level fork -
meaning creating a new community out of an existing project.  Whereas the
fork on github is really about raising pull requests Paul is mentioning.

We should have no issue with projects having the "fork me on github"
anywhere since it doesn't mean they're encouraging creating a new project.

also my 0.02.

John

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 7:27 AM Paul King <paulk@asert.com.au> wrote:

> I would think it is almost ubiquitous now for developers to know that the
> easiest way for them to create a PR for instance is to fork the project
> (the source code if you like) on Github.
>
> It seems sensible to encourage the use of "Fork me on Github" as it
> substantially lowers the barrier of newcomers to our projects but it would
> seem prudent to ensure that the links are made low key so as not to appear
> like banner ads. Other ways to contribute should be given equal prominence.
>
> Just my 2c.
>
> Cheers, Paul.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 7:27 PM Harbs <harbs.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the link to the board@ list. I agree with you that it’s a
> > shame the discussion was on a private list.
> >
> > Yes. It seems that the concern of some is that link is an “ad”.
> >
> > It seems to me that the primary purpose for the link is to make
> > contributing easier and the “advertisement” is secondary.
> >
> > I don’t really see the concern for using unreleased code any more than
> > having a link to the Apache repos.
> >
> > The fact is that GitHub has become the defacto place where much of the
> > development is being done on many projects.
> >
> > The compromise which seemed acceptable to most in that thread seems to be
> > to remove “GitHub” from the link.
> >
> > I also wonder if opinions might have changed in the 5 years since that
> > discussion. In that time, GitHub has only become more ubiquitous and more
> > adopted by many Apache projects.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Harbs
> >
> > > On Mar 27, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Justin Mclean <justin@classsoftware.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > If you can, I suggest people read this board@ thread [1]. It a pity
> > that conversation didn’t happen in more public space. Also note the board
> > action item that resulted from this and that the “Fork me on Github”
> ribbon
> > is no longer on the front page of the project in question.
> > >
> > > Also consider the language choice of “Fork me on GitHub” may cause some
> > confusion to new user re the ownership of a project and make it unclear
> if
> > this is an ASF project or a GitHub one when displayed prominently on the
> > front page.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Justin
> > >
> > > 1.
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1d5f9aaf7919608d80d1cf288092ba406c763f1ada850c5130412b4b%401417896365%40%3Cboard.apache.org%3E
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