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From "Robert Scholte" <rfscho...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [RESULT] [IP CLEARANCE] Maven Wrapper
Date Tue, 04 Feb 2020 18:28:03 GMT
Thanks John, I'll share this with the PMC and we'll let you now what we'll decide.

Robert
On 4-2-2020 17:07:31, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org> wrote:
To be very explicit here:

- The code for the maven wrapper is fine, it's already apache licensed and
has no NOTICE file declared with it, so would be perfectly fine to import.
ICLA's would be nice, but not required, and adding a NOTICE indicating the
origination of parts of it would also be nice but not required.
- The code for the Takari Maven Plugin is EPLv1 and requires an SGA to
change the license to apache license.

I'd recommend the Maven PMC take this back and decide if importing just the
wrapper is enough.

John

On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 5:20 PM Brian Fox wrote:

> I do not have answers to those questions, which seems like good ones.
> I just wanted to break the loop, which I think I might have ;-)
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 5:13 PM David Nalley wrote:
> >
> > My sense from reading this thread is that it was a 'work-for-hire' and
> > that the contributors are not owners. Otherwise, why have they been
> > bothering to talk to Walmart Labs? Why is a company (as opposed to
> > project or indivudal(s)) listed as the copyright holder in source
> > code?
> >
> > The copyright headers identify Takari Inc as the copyright
> > holder/owner, which from this thread seems to have been acquired by
> > Walmart Labs?
> >
> > --David
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 11:01 PM Brian Fox wrote:
> > >
> > > I think what Robert is highlighting was that collectively, the
> > > contributors are still owners and have granted permission to use
> > > another license.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:59 PM David Nalley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 9:27 PM Justin Mclean <>
> justin@classsoftware.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > HI,
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree with what John wrote, part of the code is EPL which is not
> compatible with the ALv2, you need the owner permission to change the
> license on that..
> > > > >
> > > > > My understanding of "Let me try to get in contact with Walmart
> Labs to get an SGA for the Takari Maven Wrapper.” was that the next step
> would be an SGA.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I agree with Justin.
> > > >
> > > > The lack of an SGA makes this ineligible for the normal lazy
> consensus route.
> > > > The fact that 1 of the chunks of code you're looking at is licensed
> > > > under the EPL is a further blocker. You can't relicense it without
> > > > explicit permission from the owner, preferably memorialized as a SGA.
> > > >
> > > > While I don't think that the IP Clearance process is perfectly rigid,
> > > > it is a process and this one is missing some significant parts of
> that
> > > > process.
> > > >
> > > > --David
> > > >
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