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From Dave Fisher <wave4d...@comcast.net>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] NuttX Proposal
Date Tue, 03 Dec 2019 06:05:29 GMT
Hi Junping,

I’m currently mentoring five podlings which is probably two more than I should since I’ve
joined the board.

Also, I’m interested in the OSSBot project...

Good luck with NuttX!

Regards,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 2, 2019, at 4:57 PM, 俊平堵 <junping_du@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Sounds like most of concerns are addressed through the discussion.
> Just like Justin said, we will call the vote once one or two mentor get
> volunteer here.
> Ted and Dave, why not watch how project is going as mentor and make sure it
> follow Apache way if you got time and interest for the project.:)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Junping
> 
> Justin Mclean <justinmclean@gmail.com>于2019年12月3日 周二上午8:43写道:
> 
>> Hi,
>> As soon as an additional mentors or two are identified I would call for a
>> vote.
>> Thanks,
>> Justin
>> 
>>> On Tue, 3 Dec 2019, 10:39 Greg Stein, <gstein@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I say just move to a vote and stop the second-guessing. GNutt seems
>>> on-board. Let them get their stuff done.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 5:23 PM Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Might be less risk and disruption for a few experienced ASF folks to go
>>>> "live amongst" the NuttX folks where they are now and verify that that
>>> the
>>>> founder's authority and reputation will not result in a BDFL effect.
>>>> 
>>>> Just a thought,
>>>> -Alex
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/2/19, 12:48 PM, "Ted Dunning" <ted.dunning@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>    Very well said.
>>>> 
>>>>    I am optimistic.
>>>> 
>>>>    On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 9:26 PM Gregory Nutt <spudaneco@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is a good discussion to have had before entering the
>>>> incubator, and
>>>>> I'm satisfied that the intent is good, and the podling can
>>>> demonstrate
>>>>> during incubation that the founder will in fact step back and
>> allow
>>>> the
>>>>> project to move forward without the founder's undue influence.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Note that it's fine for the founder to continue to work on the
>>>> project,
>>>>> but in a different role.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have been standing back and not getting deeply involved with
>> this
>>>>> discussion because it pertains too closely to me.  It is my
>>>> intention to
>>>>> divest myself of total authority over the project just as stated
>> in
>>>> the
>>>>> Proposal.  Further, it is my intention to stay out of the initial
>>>>> formation of the project as much as possible, in partial
>>> fulfillment
>>>> of
>>>>> Ted Dunning's "thought experiment."  I intend to vote 0 on all
>>>> decisions
>>>>> before the PPMC -- unless, I suppose, I had some very strong
>>> opinion
>>>>> about some topic.  I cannot imagine what topic that might be,
>>>> however.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I will be available as needed for information needed by the
>> others
>>> to
>>>>> accomplish this transition but for the most part, just consider
>> me
>>>> as on
>>>>> vacation in place.  I will help as much as needed and stay out of
>>> the
>>>>> way as much as possible.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I suppose I should say a little more about my motivations in
>> this.
>>>>> Without some understanding, is is reasonable to be skeptical.
>> Yes,
>>>> the
>>>>> project is very dear to me and the result of many years of blood,
>>>> sweat,
>>>>> and tears and years of work mostly done alone for crazy long
>> hours.
>>>>> Being a "benevolent dictator" does not proper describe my past
>> role
>>>>> because I was the ONLY person on the project.  I did
>> everything.  I
>>>>> still do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are two things that motivate me:  First, the workload has
>>>> gotten
>>>>> to be far too much for one person.  I dispose of around 60-100
>>>> changes
>>>>> per week and really have no personal life left.  It is more than
>> I
>>>> can
>>>>> do (and much more than I can do well).  The only real way to
>> solve
>>>> that
>>>>> is to open the project up to others working as equals.  The
>> second,
>>>> and
>>>>> more important, motivation is the I am closing in on 70 years old
>>>> now.
>>>>> I retired 8 retires ago and I cannot realistically control this
>>>> project
>>>>> long into the future.   For my personal health and sanity, I
>> really
>>>> need
>>>>> to detach and let the project take a life of its own that does
>> not
>>>>> depend on me in any way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would see the biggest risk to a new PPMC would not be me, but
>>>> rather
>>>>> the sheer volume of work that the PPMC is stepping into.  I am
>>>> prepared
>>>>> for some initial chaos and perhaps a missed release cycle.  But I
>>>> have
>>>>> come to accept that that is a reasonable price to pay for a clean
>>>>> knife-edge hand-off.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greg
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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