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From "Jerpelea, Alin" <Alin.Jerpe...@sony.com>
Subject RE: [DISCUSS] NuttX Proposal
Date Mon, 02 Dec 2019 00:09:13 GMT
I am in as much as my time permits
 
Alin

-----Original Message-----
From: Duo Zhang <zhangduo@apache.org> 
Sent: den 2 december 2019 00:45
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] NuttX Proposal

The proposal on the wiki page has already listed five initial committers.

And I think we can let the initial committers reply here to confirm that they will be active,
at least in the early time in the incubator, before we elect new PPMC members.

Does this solve your concerns? Thanks Dave.

Dave Fisher <wave4dave@comcast.net>于2019年12月2日 周一01:38写道:

> I share Ted’s concerns.
>
> It would help if the initial committer list was greater than the bare 
> minimum of three. Three PPMC members is not enough. There needs to be 
> at least five committers to start.
>
> (Should there be an explicit minimum in the proposal template?)
>
> It’s often the case that some initial committers do not actually 
> transition to the incubating podling.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 1, 2019, at 9:16 AM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I doubt that the name is the crucial issue. I would see that have a 
> > substantial group of initial committers who are active in setting up
> there
> > project would be the crucial step. That doesn't have to happen 
> > before incubation.
> >
> > As a thought experiment, if Greg could go on a disconnected vacation
> right
> > now without messing up the move to Apache, I would have no worries. 
> > That
> is
> > almost certainly not true, but it can serve to illuminate the 
> > factors
> that
> > make it not true. Is the decision-making centralized? Are there
> problematic
> > thoughts about retaining a high bar to committee status? Do 
> > community members automatically defer to Greg rather than move 
> > forward on
> decisions?
> > Are non-coders excluded from committer status?
> >
> > I don't know the answers to these questions, but I have a very 
> > strong expectation that this will be harder to address than expected 
> > so it is really good that this has already been identified and there 
> > are some actions in progress. The only thing I can really add is 
> > that the
> community
> > members probably don't yet know how big a deal this will be and the
> Apache
> > folks probably assume more cultural transfer than has actually happened.
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 11:43 PM Justin Mclean 
> >> <justin@classsoftware.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>> Having a project that seems to have the name of a prominent 
> >>> community member seems to pose a risk that there is a benevolent 
> >>> dictator pattern
> >> at
> >>> work here.
> >>
> >> Greg is aware of the “no dictators rule" and has already answered 
> >> this
> in
> >> this thread. He willing to hand over responsibilities to the wider 
> >> community and give up his trademark.
> >>
> >> Do you think it would be a good idea to change the name of the project?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Justin
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