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From Justin Mclean <justinmcl...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] NuttX Proposal
Date Sun, 01 Dec 2019 23:56:24 GMT
Hi,
Given I assume there are other contributors why not make them initial
commitors?
Thanks,
Justin

On Mon, 2 Dec 2019, 10:45 Duo Zhang, <zhangduo@apache.org> wrote:

> The proposal on the wiki page has already listed five initial committers.
>
> And I think we can let the initial committers reply here to confirm that
> they will be active, at least in the early time in the incubator, before we
> elect new PPMC members.
>
> Does this solve your concerns? Thanks Dave.
>
> Dave Fisher <wave4dave@comcast.net>于2019年12月2日 周一01:38写道:
>
> > I share Ted’s concerns.
> >
> > It would help if the initial committer list was greater than the bare
> > minimum of three. Three PPMC members is not enough. There needs to be at
> > least five committers to start.
> >
> > (Should there be an explicit minimum in the proposal template?)
> >
> > It’s often the case that some initial committers do not actually
> > transition to the incubating podling.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Dec 1, 2019, at 9:16 AM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I doubt that the name is the crucial issue. I would see that have a
> > > substantial group of initial committers who are active in setting up
> > there
> > > project would be the crucial step. That doesn't have to happen before
> > > incubation.
> > >
> > > As a thought experiment, if Greg could go on a disconnected vacation
> > right
> > > now without messing up the move to Apache, I would have no worries.
> That
> > is
> > > almost certainly not true, but it can serve to illuminate the factors
> > that
> > > make it not true. Is the decision-making centralized? Are there
> > problematic
> > > thoughts about retaining a high bar to committee status? Do community
> > > members automatically defer to Greg rather than move forward on
> > decisions?
> > > Are non-coders excluded from committer status?
> > >
> > > I don't know the answers to these questions, but I have a very strong
> > > expectation that this will be harder to address than expected so it is
> > > really good that this has already been identified and there are some
> > > actions in progress. The only thing I can really add is that the
> > community
> > > members probably don't yet know how big a deal this will be and the
> > Apache
> > > folks probably assume more cultural transfer than has actually
> happened.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 11:43 PM Justin Mclean <
> justin@classsoftware.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >>> Having a project that seems to have the name of a prominent community
> > >>> member seems to pose a risk that there is a benevolent dictator
> pattern
> > >> at
> > >>> work here.
> > >>
> > >> Greg is aware of the “no dictators rule" and has already answered this
> > in
> > >> this thread. He willing to hand over responsibilities to the wider
> > >> community and give up his trademark.
> > >>
> > >> Do you think it would be a good idea to change the name of the
> project?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Justin
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