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From Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] NuttX Proposal
Date Mon, 02 Dec 2019 00:55:34 GMT
The initial five works for me. I see no reason to add more at this time. It
would only be a block for graduation, not inception.

To rephrase: some may have an issue with five, but I bet you'll get enough
+1 votes as-is.

Cheers,
-g


On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 6:39 PM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <palomino219@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think it just because that it will spend more time...
>
> So what is the suggested initial committer number for NuttX? We can try to
> get even more but is this necessary? The plan is to expand the committers
> quickly during the incubation time, follow the Apache way, and also the
> IPMCs can observe whether there are problems when electing new committers.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Justin Mclean <justinmclean@gmail.com>于2019年12月2日 周一07:56写道:
>
> > Hi,
> > Given I assume there are other contributors why not make them initial
> > commitors?
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
> >
> > On Mon, 2 Dec 2019, 10:45 Duo Zhang, <zhangduo@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > The proposal on the wiki page has already listed five initial
> committers.
> > >
> > > And I think we can let the initial committers reply here to confirm
> that
> > > they will be active, at least in the early time in the incubator,
> before
> > we
> > > elect new PPMC members.
> > >
> > > Does this solve your concerns? Thanks Dave.
> > >
> > > Dave Fisher <wave4dave@comcast.net>于2019年12月2日 周一01:38写道:
> > >
> > > > I share Ted’s concerns.
> > > >
> > > > It would help if the initial committer list was greater than the bare
> > > > minimum of three. Three PPMC members is not enough. There needs to be
> > at
> > > > least five committers to start.
> > > >
> > > > (Should there be an explicit minimum in the proposal template?)
> > > >
> > > > It’s often the case that some initial committers do not actually
> > > > transition to the incubating podling.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > > On Dec 1, 2019, at 9:16 AM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I doubt that the name is the crucial issue. I would see that have
> a
> > > > > substantial group of initial committers who are active in setting
> up
> > > > there
> > > > > project would be the crucial step. That doesn't have to happen
> before
> > > > > incubation.
> > > > >
> > > > > As a thought experiment, if Greg could go on a disconnected
> vacation
> > > > right
> > > > > now without messing up the move to Apache, I would have no worries.
> > > That
> > > > is
> > > > > almost certainly not true, but it can serve to illuminate the
> factors
> > > > that
> > > > > make it not true. Is the decision-making centralized? Are there
> > > > problematic
> > > > > thoughts about retaining a high bar to committee status? Do
> community
> > > > > members automatically defer to Greg rather than move forward on
> > > > decisions?
> > > > > Are non-coders excluded from committer status?
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know the answers to these questions, but I have a very
> strong
> > > > > expectation that this will be harder to address than expected so
it
> > is
> > > > > really good that this has already been identified and there are
> some
> > > > > actions in progress. The only thing I can really add is that the
> > > > community
> > > > > members probably don't yet know how big a deal this will be and the
> > > > Apache
> > > > > folks probably assume more cultural transfer than has actually
> > > happened.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 11:43 PM Justin Mclean <
> > > justin@classsoftware.com>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hi,
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Having a project that seems to have the name of a prominent
> > community
> > > > >>> member seems to pose a risk that there is a benevolent dictator
> > > pattern
> > > > >> at
> > > > >>> work here.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Greg is aware of the “no dictators rule" and has already answered
> > this
> > > > in
> > > > >> this thread. He willing to hand over responsibilities to the
wider
> > > > >> community and give up his trademark.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Do you think it would be a good idea to change the name of the
> > > project?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > >> Justin
> > > > >>
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