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From Dave Fisher <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] NuttX Proposal
Date Sun, 01 Dec 2019 17:38:28 GMT
I share Ted’s concerns.

It would help if the initial committer list was greater than the bare minimum of three. Three
PPMC members is not enough. There needs to be at least five committers to start.

(Should there be an explicit minimum in the proposal template?)

It’s often the case that some initial committers do not actually transition to the incubating


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> On Dec 1, 2019, at 9:16 AM, Ted Dunning <> wrote:
> I doubt that the name is the crucial issue. I would see that have a
> substantial group of initial committers who are active in setting up there
> project would be the crucial step. That doesn't have to happen before
> incubation.
> As a thought experiment, if Greg could go on a disconnected vacation right
> now without messing up the move to Apache, I would have no worries. That is
> almost certainly not true, but it can serve to illuminate the factors that
> make it not true. Is the decision-making centralized? Are there problematic
> thoughts about retaining a high bar to committee status? Do community
> members automatically defer to Greg rather than move forward on decisions?
> Are non-coders excluded from committer status?
> I don't know the answers to these questions, but I have a very strong
> expectation that this will be harder to address than expected so it is
> really good that this has already been identified and there are some
> actions in progress. The only thing I can really add is that the community
> members probably don't yet know how big a deal this will be and the Apache
> folks probably assume more cultural transfer than has actually happened.
>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 11:43 PM Justin Mclean <>
>> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>> Having a project that seems to have the name of a prominent community
>>> member seems to pose a risk that there is a benevolent dictator pattern
>> at
>>> work here.
>> Greg is aware of the “no dictators rule" and has already answered this in
>> this thread. He willing to hand over responsibilities to the wider
>> community and give up his trademark.
>> Do you think it would be a good idea to change the name of the project?
>> Thanks,
>> Justin
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