From general-return-70458-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Mon Aug 12 23:00:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [207.244.88.153]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AEBD7196D2 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 23:00:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 289 invoked by uid 500); 12 Aug 2019 23:00:05 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 99916 invoked by uid 500); 12 Aug 2019 23:00:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 99899 invoked by uid 99); 12 Aug 2019 23:00:04 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd2-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 23:00:04 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd2-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd2-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 08D0F1A0DDD for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 23:00:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.197 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.197 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd2-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-ec2-va.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd2-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2KpFrdmauqKf for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 23:00:00 +0000 (UTC) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=209.85.215.193; helo=mail-pg1-f193.google.com; envelope-from=sebbaz@gmail.com; receiver= Received: from mail-pg1-f193.google.com (mail-pg1-f193.google.com [209.85.215.193]) by mx1-ec2-va.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-ec2-va.apache.org) with ESMTPS id B56C8BC924 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 22:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pg1-f193.google.com with SMTP id z14so12990083pga.5 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 15:59:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VOnIw+rAM2EAKN7FM47B6fcqAXlEtEn0aj/MA6cxzmc=; b=Ii/rdxox/gq3xVIqxVBTFQkUPI2FmES2i5pqHHtNSXI9YSDoks0pp3h8qx/EdXAtXD 6d0r5YAESKB2VWVu88DJP5snKmqzo9EnB+6gZzBTHGm+RVbKsSxJa2FvorBL/JYnvLDe 9Rx75DT1TkNFCmkAePdXrxY/QPcCLINvUKK/18DCjUYAttCXo5adV79uwOp20QC3+Eth RBTtKf9DY/+Vo8Dt/EQQM5EXzkTi1n2LBy0TjBDugFtxEpAWDPC00gRPmza0DHNpOBvr wVBpBdqXCOYtf55MGtrLYeYUhR/Cff3K/Z6vW48FLqtgkZBCWJqSo47CIPhAnhCP0XwS mQrg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VOnIw+rAM2EAKN7FM47B6fcqAXlEtEn0aj/MA6cxzmc=; b=hMFaBrLkkaRQr5LMvXtwYgYMztQZ8wbr+B/ge2xulz280K4Wse1YHheh4N8ohZmGqT I6kzw9fW5drEwxtsxKp6dhCymGrqovwvG8O+7zSgyrws+K+D0BeQeiK9ySGv3UUEYLOl p5+zPfLMfM21rsqM3hrjA3o0bYBTRDoMiYDnP3X/nxT233PZXs7TqKflYfLCjFCO+8QU 70B9lBe7rBib2kbN3EwMAjgaCxk3VOhnIMYMF4G6ig9f6/fOKY5mfAjIXX3CfF3k6noz 27Xa6kpzKeg5aukcUxkW7OYrhlLqi5ktMEnVOQuJcjm2GNGBp4hxGK1Q7zHUmp6gRKK1 0oEg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVb3rpPBiV327tnLFUhJr/X5OvmjddYqGZwEckZ8Lbd9g5t9uRh aNJ8xpFQynogNYw3bWnlGecAk3K1qfF/Cy8DwDWVTg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw3n/XJAccXIv5uLFTUBGCi729MJ7F+zyJ2Mkd5OEtuQ/x/xfYeKOFxMP9bVUE73STdPDF/8c3+r3iXDJCqLro= X-Received: by 2002:a63:e213:: with SMTP id q19mr31625278pgh.180.1565650797970; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 15:59:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <43712B5E-92B5-4E54-AE27-433330EA9EFA@classsoftware.com> <0e1a8f2f-3c89-64b0-112a-916542904ac2@apache.org> In-Reply-To: From: sebb Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 23:59:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Drop requirement that ASF members can join IPMC by just asking To: general Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 23:35, Justin Mclean wrot= e: > > Hi, > > > Is there a problem we are trying to solve or is this just a concern tha= t > > it might become a problem as we scale? > > It=E2=80=99s already a problem. I suggest you look at the missing mentors= / mentors who don=E2=80=99t sign off report and look at how they were appo= inted. I can post the stats if you want, but perhaps not to this list. > > Changing this would also mean people who want to be IPMC members need to = do a little work at the IPMC (and it should be a low bar), that hopefully m= eans more a bit more knowledge transfer / active mentors self select and a = few more people helping the IPMC out. > > Plus it=E2=80=99s different to how every other PMC appoints people, I don= 't see why the incubator needs to be special in this regard. I think this may cause more work for the Incubator. Instead of ASF members offering themselves, the PMC will have to actively seek out new candidates. Also, I don't think there is anything stopping the IPMC from inviting new members now. > Thanks, > Justin > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org