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From "P. Taylor Goetz" <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Drop requirement that ASF members can join IPMC by just asking
Date Tue, 13 Aug 2019 00:11:29 GMT
I posted the following in a private@ thread:

Traditionally ASF membership + expressed interest has been the main path to the IPMC. Honestly,
I think “someone who has significantly helped a project navigate incubation through to successful
graduation” holds at least as much merit as ASF membership. 

There’s the added benefit of recent experience. My experience with the incubator 5-6 years
ago is likely different than what podlings experience today. The core values haven’t changed,
but some processes have. 

That is where I see new blood brings value.


I see value in lowing the bar for entry to the IPMC. I also see value in allowing interested
Members to auto-join. Default to inclusivity.


> On Aug 12, 2019, at 7:29 PM, Greg Stein <> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:26 PM Justin Mclean <>
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>> I will also note that if the IPMC switches to *voting* Members into the
>>> IPMC, that the Apache Member will be observing that vote take place on
>>> private@ through a subscription (they can reply!) or via the archives. …
>> Which is also the same for any project who votes in a ASF member as a
>> committer or PMC member.
> I would counter that any project which creates such a bar for ASF Members
> may be doing it Wrong :)
> (this goes into my general feeling that projects generally need to lower
> their bars, and become more inclusive)
> Cheers,
> -g

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