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From Sheng Wu <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Drop requirement that ASF members can join IPMC by just asking
Date Fri, 09 Aug 2019 05:29:38 GMT

My Apache journey started at Incubator, and as IPMC now(not asf member). I
noticed this requirement too.

>From the members I known personally, most indeed know Apache way very well.
And truely there is exception.

Basically, I think removing this makes sense.

1. if this member has been incubator journey, such as being initial
committer of a podling, it is easy to know and should have taken part in
incubator ml much.

2. there are indeed asf members elected by other reasons, so, they are not
familiar w/ incubator, and need more time to learn too. Apache has so many
TLPs and ways to take part in, a member is not required used to be

My +1 on IPMC should have enough incubator experiences.

Also, very open to know the history reason of this.


Justin Mclean <>于2019年8月9日 周五下午1:04写道:

> Hi,
> Current any ASF member can come along and ask to join the IPMC. I assume
> this was put in place for two reasons: ( but don’t know the full history
> behind it)
> - There was a lack of mentors.
> - Is is assumed that if you are an ASF member you know enough about the
> Apache Way to mentor a project.
> I’m not sure if this is the case anymore. And while the mentor situation
> has improved I don’t think the above has solved the problem of having
> active members or mentors having the required knowledge and skills they
> need.
> So if you want to be a IPMC member and mentor a project then I think you
> need you have gone through the full incubation process yourself and/or help
> out with other incubator duties and get voted in as an IPMC member. Just
> like every other ASF project.
> What do other people think?
> Thanks,
> Justin
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Sheng Wu
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