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From Greg Stein <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] IPMC votes on releases
Date Sun, 11 Aug 2019 09:23:25 GMT
On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 5:29 PM Justin Mclean <>

> Hi,
> I wrote: (dunno why Justin keeps trimming sources for his quotes...)

> > Option (F): stop calling them official ASF releases, which means PMC
> votes
> > are not required.
> In that case voting would not be required and they wouldn’t have to follow
> ASF policy.


> If they are not official releases then we probably can’t release or
> distribute them on ASF infrastructure.

I see no problem with using our infrastructure to distribute F/OSS
materials. Why would the Foundation want to be against that? If it is
labeled properly, then ... roll with it. We distribute a *ton* of stuff
that wasn't produced by the ASF. We incorporate that stuff into a larger
work, but it isn't "ours". Yet we put it onto our servers.

Clearly, these bits and bobs and blobs *are* intended to be F/OSS. Maybe
somebody thinks a LICENSE file isn't correct, so maybe ACME Inc. can't use
it ... but John and Jane and Joe certainly want to, and *can*. Isn't that
our goal?

We do allow connivance binaries but they still have to follow ASF policy
> and have to be made from the source of an official release. In this
> scenario how do podlings learn what is required to make official releases?

You're conflating *learning* with *releases*. These can be handled


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