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From Justin Mclean <>
Subject Re: Business decisions and risk (was: [DISCUSS] IPMC votes on releases)
Date Wed, 14 Aug 2019 00:10:33 GMT

> Here's an idea... The IPMC focuses on supporting mentors to do their job rather than
forcing project developers and their mentors to jump through arbitrarily defined hoops.

What "arbitrarily defined hoops” are you referring to? ASF policy or something else?

>  The IPMC doesn't need to enforce policy of any kind, except at the point of graduation.

That seems less than ideal to me, why would a IPMC volunteer want to do that job? And again
IMO it introduces a hard gate that podlings are going to dislike, probably more so than they
do now.

> When things change for individuals and they can no longer be good mentors then the IPMC
 needs to make it a priority to help find a new, truly dedicated mentor. It's a problem that
needs to be solved, but let's worry about that when it's actually a problem rather than a
hypothetical one.

It’s currently a problem, not a hypothetical, see for instance votes coming to this list
without 3 mentors +1 votes, or the missing reports or missing sign-offs on the current incubator
report to the board. This problem isn’t going unrecognised either, you’ll also note that
recently nearly every month new mentors have been found and added to podlings that need them.


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