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From Furkan KAMACI <furkankam...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Cookbook and duplication of content on incubator site
Date Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:11:06 GMT
Hi Justin,

As far as I see, people are confused about how the system works at Apache
when they first entered to Incubator. Such a Cookbook will be great for
them. Data is sparse through ASF resources and it is not easy to access
them. I just want to mention some issues people are often confused:

* How to vote on a release.
* What is the template for a VOTE thread of a committer.
* Which actions need what kind of consensus.

i.e. I can find information here about types of consensus:

http://forrest.apache.org/guidelines.html#approvals

or I can access some information about the committer process:

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/wookie/project_admin/process/committerVote.txt

It could be nice to add such information in one place. As another example,
this page has some information about decision making which is not enough:

https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#decision-making

We should have a guideline for them. One place, all necessary questions
answered.

On the other hand, we should have a guideline for mentors too. Including
responsibilities of them, how to mentor a podling project. I know that
these are answered at somewhere but some of them are not adequate and most
of them are split into many mail list threads.

Kind Regards,
Furkan KAMACI

On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 2:29 PM Furkan KAMACI <furkankamaci@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> +1 from me too!
>
> Kind Regards,
> Furkan KAMACI
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 2:26 PM Paul King <paulk@asert.com.au> wrote:
>
>> All sounds good to me too! +1
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 6:26 PM Bertrand Delacretaz <
>> bdelacretaz@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Justin,
>> >
>> > Thank you for addressing this, I was planning to work on this
>> > duplication of content but didn't get to it yet.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:44 AM Justin Mclean <justin@classsoftware.com
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> > > With the cookbook added [1] I suggest that we remove this page:
>> > > https://incubator.apache.org/policy/process.html
>> >
>> > +1
>> >
>> > > And move this page:
>> > > https://incubator.apache.org/policy/roles_and_responsibilities.html
>> > > To:
>> > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/roles_and_responsibilities.html
>> >
>> > +1
>> >
>> > > And heavily cut down this page:
>> > > https://incubator.apache.org/policy/incubation.html
>> > > to remove anything that not actually IPMC policy.
>> >
>> > +1 as you suggest.
>> >
>> > > ...And that leaves:
>> > > - Podling Constraints and sub headings
>> >
>> > Note that the branding constraints are already pointed to by
>> > http://incubator.apache.org/cookbook/#publicity_and_announcements
>> >
>> > >
>> > > We should add the section under "Podling Website Requirements” from:
>> > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
>> > > to this policy page with a few adjustments, like the need a disclaimer
>> > on the podling web site.
>> >
>> > +1
>> >
>> > > What do other IPMC members think?..
>> >
>> > +1 and thank you!
>> >
>> > -Bertrand
>> >
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