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From Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
Subject Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache
Date Wed, 03 Jul 2019 18:37:48 GMT
On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 10:27 PM Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 12:10 AM Justin Mclean <justin@classsoftware.com>
> wrote:
> >...
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > > Although not a "real" PMC, we do need to provide legal protection for
> > each PPMC and distributing releases is the time that most legal
> > considerations "kick in" as it were. So we need a
>
>
> Or we *don't* provide legal protections. That *is* what the disclaimer is
> there for.

That's exactly the direction I personally would like this to go into.

> > Which while I don’t disagree with, again I ask how can a PMC (i.e the
> > incubator) make releases that are not in line with policy? Current advice
> > seems that the board would not grant a blanket exception like to the IPMC
>
>
> I don't recall that advice. In fact, Roman seemed to indicate Legal would
> be just fine with that.

This is correct. Provided we *do* explicitly acknowledge that special
status of the Incubator.

This acknowledgement will basically put podling source code releases
at the same level we have convenience binary releases. Which is: they
are NOT acts of the foundation.

> IMO, stop being pessimistic. Move forward with change to stop the gating,
> and let podlings do their releases without all the IPMC burden.
>
> >...
>
> > > Let's also recall that the origin genesis of the Incubator was NOT to
> > provide legal oversight
> >
> > That may be the original thought, but historical threads bring up legal
> > oversight very very early on. (I posted one from 2004 the other day).
> > Hopefully someone can explain this history?
> >
>
> Who cares? Red herring. We are where we are. Move forward from here.

+1000!

Thanks,
Roman.

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