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From 申远 <shenyua...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: LGPL dependency
Date Tue, 18 Jun 2019 12:08:51 GMT
Thanks for help.

I will bring this to legal-jira this weeks later.

Best Regards,
YorkShen

申远


Myrle Krantz <myrle@apache.org> 于2019年6月17日周一 下午8:07写道:

> Thank you all,
>
> YorkShen, I think at this point the best thing to do is to open a "legal"
> ticket at this Jira (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL).  I
> suspect that if you're only including the BSD-licensed headers, that Weex
> will only be dependent on BSD-licensed code.  It's possible that the
> "runtime" argument will work in this case too.
>
> But this discussion hasn't made me feel confident in either statement, and
> there are other Apache projects for which this question may be relevant.
> I'd like a final answer and the legal committee can provide that.
>
> Let me know if you need help formulating the ticket.
>
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
>
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 7:13 PM Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Some  things I don't think have been mentioned in this thread so far:
> >
> > 1) Even if you make Webkit optional by offering V8, I believe the ASF
> > criteria for "optional" includes "less than half of your users will use
> > that option" and so if Webkit offers better performance and most of the
> > users select Webkit over V8, it won't really qualify Webkit as optional.
> > 2) AIUI, the ASF does not care about the licensing of RUNTIMES (my
> > emphasis) your project's code runs on.  Otherwise, no ASF project could
> run
> > on Windows or OSX.  Apache Flex runs on Adobe Flash/AIR runtimes.
> > 3) I could not quickly find a direct quote for this, but I believe the
> ASF
> > does not care about the licensing of BUILD TOOLS (emphasis mine) used to
> > manipulate the source in the source release as long as the license of
> those
> > tools does not constrain usage of that code (like some non-commercial
> > restriction, or even a "no evil" restriction.
> >
> > AIUI, the whole purpose of these restrictions is to not place
> restrictions
> > on modifications to source or use of source when that source is
> eventually
> > executed (whether interpreted or compiled or other).
> >
> > So, if I've made that clear so far, the question I have for Weex is:  How
> > is Webkit used in Weex?  Is it just a runtime and libraries for that
> > runtime?  If so, then I believe it is ok to have a dependency on LGPL
> > Webkit, but I would recommend that you find a way to not bundle Webkit in
> > the release artifacts.  Have it downloaded or make it a "prerequisite"
> just
> > like I think every ASF Java-based project says you must install a Java
> JDK
> > and don't bundle Java JDKs.
> >
> > Other questions to ask relative to whether Webkit is a runtime or build
> > tool:
> >
> > A) Will anybody realistically want to modify the Webkit sources in order
> > to use Weex?  If no, that's great, and another reason to not bundle those
> > header files with your sources.
> > B) Will use of the WebKit header files and other binaries you depend on
> > create a restriction on use?  If no, that's great as well, and I think if
> > the answer to A and B are both "no", the IPMC should consider Webkit to
> be
> > a runtime/build-tool dependency and let it go.
> >
> > HTH,
> > -Alex
> >
> >
> > On 6/14/19, 5:09 AM, "York Shen" <shenyuancs@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >     It depends on the definition of optional dependency. Weex targets
> iOS,
> > Android and Browser environment and Webkit header files and shared
> library
> > are only bundled for Android environment. As for other environments, the
> OS
> > or browser itself has exposed enough API for Weex.
> >
> >     PS: I am pretty sure that the iOS system itself uses almost the same
> > code of Webkit as Weex does to build its WKWebView. It’s really strange
> > that’s ok for Weex iOS and not ok for Weex Android.
> >
> >     > 在 2019年6月14日,19:17,Justin Mclean <justin@classsoftware.com>
写道:
> >     >
> >     > Hi,
> >     >
> >     >> Well, what if Weex copies some BSD header files in Webkit then run
> > on Webkit? IMHO, the Webkit is also an environment for Weex in this case.
> >     >
> >     > You still didi not answer if this is an optional dependancy? But
> > again either way I suggest you ask on legal discuss.
> >     >
> >     > Thanks,
> >     > Justin
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
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