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From Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: overzealous bureaucracy (was: [VOTE] Zipkin leave incubator, return back to OpenZipkin)
Date Thu, 20 Jun 2019 09:32:28 GMT
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 1:59 AM Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 9:38 AM Lars Francke <lars.francke@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > This is very much not thought through to the end. One question raised
> for
> > > example is whether projects would even want to become a TLP.
> > > The mission states: "We do this by providing services and support for
> > many
> > > like-minded software project communities consisting of individuals who
> > > choose to participate in ASF activities."
> > > I don't see anything in there requiring anyone to "join" (I remember
> the
> > > recent discussions about that). If you sign up to Github you're not all
> > of
> > > a sudden a "Github project" but still benefit from its services.
> > >
> > > We could do something similar.
> >
> > Do I understand correctly that you're proposing a sort of "indefinite
> > incubation" for projects which want to benefit from our infra but don't
> > want to follow one or more of the principles we have deemed important to
> > producing open source software?
> >
> ...
> I don't see Lars suggesting allowing such projects. There would still be a
> Proposal, and retirement is still an option.


Actually, I think that he quite literally did suggest what he called
github++ where projects would be free to make releases based on whatever
rules that they chose and to not all themselves apache projects for as long
as they like.

I am with Myrle. That isn't what we want. There has to be some ooomph
toward becoming an Apache project.

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