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From Myrle Krantz <>
Subject Re: overzealous bureaucracy (was: [VOTE] Zipkin leave incubator, return back to OpenZipkin)
Date Thu, 20 Jun 2019 08:23:37 GMT
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 9:38 AM Lars Francke <> wrote:

> This is very much not thought through to the end. One question raised for
> example is whether projects would even want to become a TLP.
> The mission states: "We do this by providing services and support for many
> like-minded software project communities consisting of individuals who
> choose to participate in ASF activities."
> I don't see anything in there requiring anyone to "join" (I remember the
> recent discussions about that). If you sign up to Github you're not all of
> a sudden a "Github project" but still benefit from its services.
> We could do something similar.

Do I understand correctly that you're proposing a sort of "indefinite
incubation" for projects which want to benefit from our infra but don't
want to follow one or more of the principles we have deemed important to
producing open source software?

I don't want to do that.  If your project is in the incubator, it should be
with at least the intention of finding out if the ASF is a good fit for
your community. That answer could be "no".  And it could take a long time
to figure that out.  That's OK.  But our volunteer time is a limited
resource.  We don't need to spend it on projects which don't actually want
to be part of the ASF.

Best Regards,

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