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From Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org>
Subject Re: overzealous bureaucracy (was: [VOTE] Zipkin leave incubator, return back to OpenZipkin)
Date Wed, 19 Jun 2019 13:30:27 GMT
An enthusiastic +1 from me, both for Bertrand's statement and Greg's
characterization of it.

: o),
Myrle

On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 2:55 PM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 help/mentor/service
>
> That is my only goal as mentor to ShardingSphere today. Provide
> experiences and helps as much as I could.
>
> Sheng Wu
> Apache Skywalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
>
>
>
> > 在 2019年6月19日,下午7:13,Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com> 写道:
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 4:14 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <
> > bdelacretaz@codeconsult.ch <mailto:bdelacretaz@codeconsult.ch>> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 8:13 AM Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> ...Let's talk about the overzealous bureaucracy of the IPMC...
> >>
> >> IMO something that can help fix that is declaring that the IPMC's goal
> >> is to *provide services to podlings so they can become top-level ASF
> >> Projects".
> >>
> >> Currently, many things in the Incubator make it appear more like a
> >> *stern gatekeeper for entry to the ASF" - like this overzealous
> >> bureaucracy that you mention and that is often perceptible.
> >>
> >> The difference is subtle but it can influence the IPMC's culture.
> >>
> >
> > Thank you, Bertrand! ... as always, you have a knack for looking at
> culture.
> >
> > My commentary is usually rather ham-handed, but yes: what you describe is
> > where I'd like to see the Incubator head. Stop the gatekeeping/rules, and
> > focus on help/mentor/service.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -g
>
>

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