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From Greg Stein <>
Subject Re: overzealous bureaucracy (was: [VOTE] Zipkin leave incubator, return back to OpenZipkin)
Date Wed, 19 Jun 2019 11:13:59 GMT
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 4:14 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <> wrote:

> Hi,
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 8:13 AM Greg Stein <> wrote:
> > ...Let's talk about the overzealous bureaucracy of the IPMC...
> IMO something that can help fix that is declaring that the IPMC's goal
> is to *provide services to podlings so they can become top-level ASF
> Projects".
> Currently, many things in the Incubator make it appear more like a
> *stern gatekeeper for entry to the ASF" - like this overzealous
> bureaucracy that you mention and that is often perceptible.
> The difference is subtle but it can influence the IPMC's culture.

Thank you, Bertrand! ... as always, you have a knack for looking at culture.

My commentary is usually rather ham-handed, but yes: what you describe is
where I'd like to see the Incubator head. Stop the gatekeeping/rules, and
focus on help/mentor/service.


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