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From Alex Harui <>
Subject Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache
Date Mon, 24 Jun 2019 06:02:44 GMT
But, IMO, the reason the question went to VP Legal is that it doesn't really matter what the
IPMC thinks if their "business decision" will have an impact on the "Legal Shield" and the
insurance premiums that go with it.  So I think the question got lost on legal-discuss.  The
"space of options" should probably be constrained by the "Legal Shield".

What kinds of policy violations truly affect the legal shield if the non-compliance:
1) is actually released
2) released but noted in RELEASE_NOTES or DISCLAIMER
3) released but not corrected in the next release

Ted, Roy, Hen, seem to say that only "no rights to distribute" and "CatX" should not be released
by TLPs but "CatX" should be ok for podlings.  My takeaway from Roman is that all policy non-compliance
issues are release breakers and Incubator should either be granted special status or not.
 But I'd like to see the first question be answered so we can understand how special the Incubator
status would have to be.  How different would it be from TLP releases and what risks to the
foundation would that pose and could a DISCLAIMER or other means mitigate that risk?  Without
knowing how the Legal Shield works, it is hard to know what the options truly are.


´╗┐On 6/23/19, 10:43 PM, "Davor Bonaci" <> wrote:

    On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 10:04 PM Greg Stein <> wrote:
    > I disagree. I see a number of people who think that podling releases are
    > TLP-level releases from the Incubator itself. I see people wanting
    > structure/policy/rules to ensure these TLP releases are done properly. And
    > that some want to "fix a few things" to make it easier for podlings to make
    > these releases.
    Perhaps you are right, but it is not necessary to debate it. (The
    'disagreement' is about what other people think; we can let them speak up
    and/or measure consensus or lack thereof in the usual ways.)
    The balls rolls forward by understanding the space of options, and then
    discussing it. (... the first part of which is happening on other threads.)

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