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From "Kevin A. McGrail" <kmcgr...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Date Tue, 26 Feb 2019 22:33:16 GMT
Thanks Antoine,

I am happy to help and vote but I want to make sure I'm right before we get
to that stage.

I don't know if branding or legal (or press) would oppose the name Jal.  My
$0.02 is that if this were a corporate entity, the likelihood for confusion
would be very high with two OSS projects named Jal.  And while JAL, the
programming language, might not have a Trademark, it would be rude IMO to a
long standing project to just hijack the name.

If they have trademarks, it would be almost certainly a torpedo to the
name.  My assumption is that the name suitability is rooted in finding a
trademarkable, unique, defendable, and brandable name.

With Jal being an existing OSS project (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
http://justanotherlanguage.org/), I'm certainly not excited by using that
name.  For now, consider me a -0.5 and I welcome the opportunity to be
convinced differently.

Sorry, I'm really working hard to make the incubator process positive so my
apologies again for a last minute monkey wrench.  I just happened to catch
the subject on the thread and I know some PIC programming in JAL and so
here we are...

Regards,
KAM


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On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 5:20 PM Antoine Toulme <antoine@toulme.name> wrote:

> I am aware of those uses, but they don’t seem to cross with the domain of
> the project.
> The suitable name search guide [0] expresses a lot of subtlety about name
> uniqueness which gave me this interpretation.
>
> Nevertheless, let’s then reopen the thread:
>
> Would you like to vote for another name in the list proposed?
>
> [0]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#what_makes_a_name_good
>
>
> > On Feb 26, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgrail@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Antoine,
> >
> > I hate to throw a wrench in the works but there has been so much traffic
> > here, I missed that thread.  Jal (just another language) is a
> > programming language:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
> > http://justanotherlanguage.org/
> >
> > I don't think it's going to be appropriate for us to step on another
> > open source project name.
> >
> > Regards,
> > KAM
> >
> > On 2/26/2019 5:02 PM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> >> Thanks all.
> >>
> >> We have a clear winner with “Jal”, with 4 +1 votes and no votes for
> other names.
> >> Thank you for your participation!
> >>
> >> I will make mention of the result of this consultation on the proposal.
> >>
> >> We are now set to open the podling.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Antoine
> >>
> >>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:38 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> +1 for Jal
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> JB
> >>>
> >>> On 22/02/2019 23:47, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator
> [0].
> >>>>
> >>>> At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better
> name for the project [1].
> >>>>
> >>>> Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
> >>>>
> >>>> Here are the names:
> >>>> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with
> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
> >>>> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
> (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
> >>>> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a
> chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the
> chain theme as well)
> >>>> - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote
> from [3]: "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning
> covered with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all
> the other dew drops.
> >>>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew
> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
> >>>>
> >>>> In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please
> feel free to justify your choice.
> >>>> Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of
a
> strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a
> name.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday
> afternoon PST time.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>> Antoine
> >>>>
> >>>> [0]:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> >>>> [1]:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> >>>> [2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
> >>>> [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
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> >>> --
> >>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >>> jbonofre@apache.org
> >>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >>>
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> >
> > --
> > Kevin A. McGrail
> > Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> >
>
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