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From "Kevin A. McGrail" <kmcgr...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Date Thu, 28 Feb 2019 19:02:08 GMT
A rose by any other name would still be as sweet so I am +1 on the
proposal.  Just trying to help with the naming issue and to save the
project and infra grief of it needs to change.

But I am here to support and feel bad to throw any gunk in your sprockets.

Best, KAM

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019, 13:59 Antoine Toulme <antoine@toulme.name wrote:

> For context Jim is the champion of the Cava proposal.
>
> The point of rough consensus is to bring about strong objections and move
> past non-votes.
> I believe we are at that point, and I will move forward to consider this
> thread closed with the name Rainbow.
> I will open a pooling namecheck and move to the next step there.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Antoine
>
> > On Feb 28, 2019, at 7:41 AM, Jim Jagielski <jim@jaguNET.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well, I have no doubt that the proposal is going to pass, so we might as
> well progress on w/ that assumption. ;)
> >
> >> On Feb 28, 2019, at 10:09 AM, Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgrail@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Jim, I don't read https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html to
> lead
> >> me to believe we are at that stage yet.  I think we want to have
> >> discussions about a provisional name first.  Specifically, "A podling
> >> needs to discover whether a name is suitable."
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> KAM
> >>
> >> On 2/28/2019 9:42 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> >>> We should simply file a standard Jira request for a podling namecheck.
> >>>
> >>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 9:36 AM, Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgrail@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Not an objection per se but two comments:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1 - Rainbow is associated with LGBTQ communities and there have been
> >>>> concerns about it being co-opted for other uses.  For example,
> >>>>
> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/02/brands-rainbow-queasy-but-bring-lgbt-lives-into-mainstream-skittles-gay
> >>>>
> >>>> 2 - I cannot speak for the LGBTQ community and I support them so I
> would
> >>>> say rainbow would be something I would avoid.
> >>>>
> >>>> In the business world I often recommend people consider made up
> words.
> >>>> Less chance of conflictions.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> KAM
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2/28/2019 3:28 AM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> >>>>> Hey folks, just checking in.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would like to establish rough consensus. If you’re still
> following, we have narrowed down the list to rainbow, sprocket and winch.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We have one vote for rainbow, and one for winch.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When establishing rough consensus, it’s a good idea to push
> proposals to hear objections.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At this time, I’d like to push for the name rainbow. Any objections?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <antoine@toulme.name>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I ran searches for rainbow, sprocket and winch and didn’t
find OSS
> projects with those names.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I personally would like to vouch for Rainbow. It does fit the
> whimsical requirement of Apache project names.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgrail@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines,
which is
> clearly a
> >>>>>>>> really different field of use.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty
in
> presuming it
> >>>>>>>> described a historical language. If it is an active
open source
> project,
> >>>>>>>> let's not collide.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick
search,
> but sounds
> >>>>>>>> like someone should check my work...
> >>>>>>> Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue.  The programming
> language I
> >>>>>>> think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years
old on PAL
> >>>>>>> (
> https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
>
> >>>>>>> I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things
like
> Raspberry
> >>>>>>> Pi's overtaking the field.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a
trademark,
> etc.
> >>>>>>> Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS
spaces
> except a
> >>>>>>> company called winch gate.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ might help
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> KAM
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
> >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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