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From Willem Jiang <willem.ji...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Binary jars in the source release which are only for testing
Date Wed, 27 Feb 2019 00:54:46 GMT
Thanks all the help from IPMC. I'm sorry I didn't make it clear enough earlier.

Actually, this question is related to recently release check of Apache
Camel[1].  I just found there are some tests jar in the source kit by
applying what I learned from IPMC.  I already submit a quick fix to
eliminate those jars.

[1]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-13240

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 12:19 AM Craig Russell <apache.clr@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Willem,
>
> It will help focus this discussion if you tell us what the binary artifacts are and why
your normal build process doesn't already build them.
>
> Mark and Christopher described a couple of possible binary files and how to handle them.
>
> But it would be really useful for you to tell us what these files are.
>
> Regards,
>
> Craig
>
> > On Feb 23, 2019, at 11:06 PM, Willem Jiang <willem.jiang@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ted,
> >
> > You made a good point,  I think my solution could be building the jars
> > from source and then using it for testing.
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 10:02 AM Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Willem,
> >>
> >> This issue of embedded binaries for testing purposes has come up before.
> >> Examples include network intercepts for testing malware detection or class
> >> files for a byte code manipulator. The network files can't easily be
> >> recreated since they were observed in the wild and the class files might
> >> have been produced by a specific (possibly broken) compiler version that
> >> isn't widely available.
> >>
> >> The key question is whether these binaries are derived from some source
> >> that could be compiled instead of distributing the binary objects. Failing
> >> that, can the provenance and justification for the binary object be
> >> described?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 6:49 PM Willem Jiang <willem.jiang@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Justin for the clarification.  I guess the policy imply the
> >>> source materials cannot have any binary.
> >>> But what if the binary is only for testing, which cannot be part of
> >>> the released software.
> >>> From my point of view, we don't need to modify the source materials
> >>> testing binary to do the software release as it is not a part of the
> >>> binary release of the software.
> >>>
> >>> Any thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Willem Jiang
> >>>
> >>> Twitter: willemjiang
> >>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 2:41 PM Justin Mclean <justin@classsoftware.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>>> [1]http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#what
> >>>>
> >>>> It’s explained in that link there i.e.  "The Apache Software Foundation
> >>> produces open source software. All releases are in the form of the source
> >>> materials needed to make changes to the software being released”.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Justin
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