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From Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>
Subject Re: [Cava] Suitable name search
Date Tue, 19 Feb 2019 22:33:17 GMT
Jim,

The potential conflict is a small San Francisco blockchain software comp[any called kava.io
<http://kava.io/>.

Regards,
Dave

> On Feb 19, 2019, at 5:50 AM, Jim Jagielski <jim@jaguNET.com> wrote:
> 
> +1 keeping as-is.
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 1:28 PM, Antoine Toulme <antoine@toulme.name> wrote:
>> 
>> First, a heartfelt thank you to all for participating in this discussion.
>> 
>> I am tempted to keep Cava _for now_ given this late feedback, and proceed to proposing
the project.
>> To be more precise, I recommend we get the project into the incubator with this name.
We can change the name of the project 3 to 6 months in.
>> 
>> We have so far received significant interest from the Apache community and others,
and it looks like we can go from there.
>> 
>> John, good point on this website, kava.io. I note the company is named Kava Labs
Inc. and their GitHub is Kava-Labs.
>> https://github.com/Kava-Labs
>> It also looks like their code is in the crypto domain, but more on the interchange/wallet
side and written in Go and TypeScript.
>> I’ll add them to the list when performing the suitable name search item on Jira.
>> 
>> I am going to give everyone 48 hours to voice strong opinions against this approach.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 9:04 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If the project is already known as Cava and is looking to move to Apache, I
>>> would recommend starting off as Cava.  I can see that there's already a
>>> presence for it - https://github.com/ConsenSys/cava
>>> 
>>> However, I can see there's a pretty strong conflict on the name -
>>> https://kava.io/
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:43 AM Serge Huber <shuber@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I agree that it doesn't matter if it "meant" something, you can simply
>>>> forget the original meaning.
>>>> 
>>>> So it could mean "Cryptographic Java"
>>>> 
>>>> Here are other suggestions, because I like have the block and/or in the
>>>> name :)
>>>> 
>>>> - Blockava
>>>> - Blockva
>>>> - Chainava
>>>> 
>>>> Please note I didn't do any proper name search for the above :)
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Serge...
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 5:32 PM Jim Jagielski <jim@jagunet.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Consensus Java :)
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 16, 2019, at 1:59 PM, Antoine Toulme <antoine@toulme.name>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I explained it in the proposal and the original thread, Cava stands
>>>> for “ConsenSys Java”, after Guava.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It’s not a bad name per se, so let’s add it to the proposals.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Henry Saputra <henry.saputra@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From last thread, I was not sure why Cava was not a suitable
name?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If there is a concern about trademarked name, the community can
>>>> always go
>>>>>>> with Apache Cava name.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Henry
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 5:21 PM Antoine Toulme <antoine@toulme.name
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thank you Anu.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I’ll add your proposal to mine and start a vote Monday
if that’s
>>>> agreeable.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Anu Engineer <
>>>> aengineer@hortonworks.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I would like to suggest “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s
net (or Indra
>>>>>>>> jal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> From the link:
>>>>>>>>> "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early
morning
>>>> covered
>>>>>>>> with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection
of all
>>>> the other
>>>>>>>> dew drops.
>>>>>>>>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all
the other
>>>> dew
>>>>>>>> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the
Buddhist
>>>>>>>> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts[1]
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> And for what it is worth, it is the ultimate connected
chain or
>>>> graph (
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --Anu
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2/13/19, 10:58 AM, "Antoine Toulme" <antoine@toulme.name>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> As discussed previously, Cava is not a proper name for
the proposal
>>>>>>>> discussed last week on this list and published to the wiki
[0].
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I humbly would like to ask the community for feedback
and proposals
>>>>>>>> on a suitable name for this proposal, in line with the guidelines
>>>> [1].
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> In preparation for this search, I have put together a
list of
>>>> names:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy,
and in line
>>>> with
>>>>>>>> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
>>>>>>>>> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind
out wires
>>>>>>>> (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
>>>>>>>>> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that
mesh with a
>>>>>>>> chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia),
>>>> in the
>>>>>>>> chain theme as well)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I have researched those names lightly and I have not
seen them used
>>>>>>>> heavily by an open source project in crypto. I followed the
>>>> guidelines to
>>>>>>>> search across different open source communities.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Please provide your own proposal and let’s work together
towards a
>>>>>>>> rough consensus. If one of the proposals above registers,
please let
>>>> us
>>>>>>>> know as well.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> [0]: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal
>>>>>>>>> [1]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html <
>>>>>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html>
>>>>>>>>> [2]:
>>>> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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