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From Antoine Toulme <anto...@toulme.name>
Subject Re: [Cava] Suitable name search
Date Wed, 20 Feb 2019 17:16:03 GMT
Hello all,

Thank you for your feedback. We will move to change the name.

At this point, it looks like the project itself is a good fit for the incubator.
I will open a vote for acceptance into the incubator.
In parallel or quickly after, I will also hold a vote to help select a name amongst the propositions
made so far.

Cheers,

Antoine

> On Feb 20, 2019, at 5:44 AM, Jim Jagielski <jim@jaguNET.com> wrote:
> 
> Ah yes... agreed.
> 
>> On Feb 19, 2019, at 5:33 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Jim,
>> 
>> The potential conflict is a small San Francisco blockchain software comp[any called
kava.io <http://kava.io/>.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Feb 19, 2019, at 5:50 AM, Jim Jagielski <jim@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> +1 keeping as-is.
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 1:28 PM, Antoine Toulme <antoine@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> First, a heartfelt thank you to all for participating in this discussion.
>>>> 
>>>> I am tempted to keep Cava _for now_ given this late feedback, and proceed
to proposing the project.
>>>> To be more precise, I recommend we get the project into the incubator with
this name. We can change the name of the project 3 to 6 months in.
>>>> 
>>>> We have so far received significant interest from the Apache community and
others, and it looks like we can go from there.
>>>> 
>>>> John, good point on this website, kava.io. I note the company is named Kava
Labs Inc. and their GitHub is Kava-Labs.
>>>> https://github.com/Kava-Labs
>>>> It also looks like their code is in the crypto domain, but more on the interchange/wallet
side and written in Go and TypeScript.
>>>> I’ll add them to the list when performing the suitable name search item
on Jira.
>>>> 
>>>> I am going to give everyone 48 hours to voice strong opinions against this
approach.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Antoine
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 9:04 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> If the project is already known as Cava and is looking to move to Apache,
I
>>>>> would recommend starting off as Cava.  I can see that there's already
a
>>>>> presence for it - https://github.com/ConsenSys/cava
>>>>> 
>>>>> However, I can see there's a pretty strong conflict on the name -
>>>>> https://kava.io/
>>>>> 
>>>>> John
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:43 AM Serge Huber <shuber@apache.org>
wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I agree that it doesn't matter if it "meant" something, you can simply
>>>>>> forget the original meaning.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So it could mean "Cryptographic Java"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here are other suggestions, because I like have the block and/or
in the
>>>>>> name :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Blockava
>>>>>> - Blockva
>>>>>> - Chainava
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please note I didn't do any proper name search for the above :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Serge...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 5:32 PM Jim Jagielski <jim@jagunet.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Consensus Java :)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 16, 2019, at 1:59 PM, Antoine Toulme <antoine@toulme.name>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I explained it in the proposal and the original thread, Cava
stands
>>>>>> for “ConsenSys Java”, after Guava.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It’s not a bad name per se, so let’s add it to the proposals.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Henry Saputra <henry.saputra@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> From last thread, I was not sure why Cava was not a suitable
name?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If there is a concern about trademarked name, the community
can
>>>>>> always go
>>>>>>>>> with Apache Cava name.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> - Henry
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 5:21 PM Antoine Toulme <antoine@toulme.name
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Anu.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I’ll add your proposal to mine and start a vote
Monday if that’s
>>>>>> agreeable.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Anu Engineer <
>>>>>> aengineer@hortonworks.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to suggest “Jal”, in reference
to Indra’s net (or Indra
>>>>>>>>>> jal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> From the link:
>>>>>>>>>>> "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the
early morning
>>>>>> covered
>>>>>>>>>> with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection
of all
>>>>>> the other
>>>>>>>>>> dew drops.
>>>>>>>>>>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections
of all the other
>>>>>> dew
>>>>>>>>>> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That
is the Buddhist
>>>>>>>>>> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan
Watts[1]
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> And for what it is worth, it is the ultimate
connected chain or
>>>>>> graph (
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> --Anu
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/13/19, 10:58 AM, "Antoine Toulme" <antoine@toulme.name>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> As discussed previously, Cava is not a proper
name for the proposal
>>>>>>>>>> discussed last week on this list and published to
the wiki [0].
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I humbly would like to ask the community for
feedback and proposals
>>>>>>>>>> on a suitable name for this proposal, in line with
the guidelines
>>>>>> [1].
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> In preparation for this search, I have put together
a list of
>>>>>> names:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite
toy, and in line
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
>>>>>>>>>>> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up
or wind out wires
>>>>>>>>>> (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
>>>>>>>>>>> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs,
that mesh with a
>>>>>>>>>> chain, track or other perforated or indented material.
(Wikipedia),
>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>> chain theme as well)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I have researched those names lightly and I have
not seen them used
>>>>>>>>>> heavily by an open source project in crypto. I followed
the
>>>>>> guidelines to
>>>>>>>>>> search across different open source communities.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Please provide your own proposal and let’s
work together towards a
>>>>>>>>>> rough consensus. If one of the proposals above registers,
please let
>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>>> know as well.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> [0]: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal
>>>>>>>>>>> [1]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html
<
>>>>>>>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html>
>>>>>>>>>>> [2]:
>>>>>> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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