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From Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Subject Re: Official releases vs unreleased code
Date Mon, 07 Jan 2019 12:05:08 GMT
So, just to be clear what this means in the context of Apache NetBeans.

Here's two different scenarios that relate to this:

1. CoolBeans (coolbeans.xyz) is a distribution of Apache NetBeans, with the
difference that it includes the 'enterprise' cluster (i.e., Jakarta/Java EE
features) of Apache NetBeans, which we have not yet released. We are
working to release this as part of our upcoming release and have several
licensing issues remaining. However, since CoolBeans is not distributed by
Apache, CoolBeans is not constrained by Apache's licensing concerns.

Reading Justin's e-mail, I interpret him to state that it is not allowed to
promote releases to the wider community that contain not released code,
i.e., on the Apache NetBeans webpage, we cannot promote CoolBeans, on
Apache NetBeans Twitter, we cannot promote CoolBeans, on the Apache
NetBeans mailing lists, we cannot promote CoolBeans.

Is this interpretation correct?

2. Even though we have not released the 'enterprise' cluster, we do have
plugins from before we were an Apache project for Java/Jakarta EE features.
These are available from a plugin portal and are built from the the same
code as is found in the Apache NetBeans GitHub, though created from before
that code was at Apache.

Can we promote these plugins?

Thanks,

Gj





On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 12:21 AM Justin Mclean <justin@classsoftware.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Over the last few months I’ve run into 1/2 dozen podlings who are making
> and promoting releases to the wider community that contain unreleased code,
> and I’m a little surprised that they were unaware that this is not allowed.
> This also has come up in feedback received from the exit questionnaire.
>
> In the release policy [3] it clearly states:
> "Projects MUST direct outsiders towards official releases rather than raw
> source repositories, nightly builds, snapshots, release candidates, or any
> other similar packages.”
>
> This has been discussed many times but these two legal JIRAs [1][2] spell
> it out quite clearly. And while these tickets refer to docker the same
> applies to any distribution mechanism.
>
> In short “It is appropriate to distribute official releases through
> downstream channels, but inappropriate to distribute unreleased materials
> through them.”
>
> So if your projects is using docker, PiPY, GitHub releases, npm or any
> other ways of distribution please make sure that the wider community is
> only pointed at official release and the best way to do this is not to
> publish unreleased code on those platforms. Ask yourself is someone outside
> of the project likely to use this and if the answer is yes then reconsider
> how you are using that distribution channel and make sure it only contains
> official releases.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> 1. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-270
> 2. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-427
> 3. http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#publication
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